IRC Archive for channel #xwiki on 02 August 2009

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A-Kaser - (02/08/2009 11:39): poy poy
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arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:30): vmassol_ : HI
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:31): arunreddy_: hi
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:31): Am trying to change the exisiting implementation.
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:32): But before that i would like to know the importer from user perspective.
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arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:34): As the user will upload the Dump from his server machine. How to handle the configuration properties
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:34): Would it be better Wizard way. or user uploadiing a configuration file. ?
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:36): vmassol_: Am i understandable ?
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:37): arunreddy_: we need an import UI (if that's the question)
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:38): Yes. we need one. But am not clear on what all to include in UI.
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:39): Config Properties like.. Metadata, Attachements, History and so on.
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vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:51): arunreddy_: not sure what you're asking. Maybe you could make a proposal on the mailing list?
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): then we can discuss it there
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): Ok
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): you could start by listing all ropeties
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): properties
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): (at least the ones you already know ofà
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:52): s/à/)/
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:53): arunreddy_: have you seen my comments following my code review?
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:54): Yes. Am working on those. 1) Removing Wiki Interface
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:54): 2) Wiki Importer Configuration Component.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:54): re the dump to import, I think we should leave it to the user to put it on the server for now
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:54): ok cool
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:55): And i have created a Jira Issue on sand box.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:55): ok
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:55): (haven't seen it)
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:56): http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XSANDBOX/component/10800
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:56): arunreddy_: hmmmm
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:57): i don't see any issue for implementing a Wiki Importer
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:57): but you have 2 issues regarding improving something that doesn't exist (since there's no issue for it) ;)
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:57): you should not have jira issues for stuff that "don't exist"
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vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:58): don't exist = not released
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vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:58): if you need help re jira there are guidelines here:
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:58): http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DevelopmentPractices
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:58): Can i make some release.
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 18:59): Suppose if i want to create one for Wiki Importer Configuration Component .. Can i create a issue for it.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 18:59): a release for a component?
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:00): a releaase should be made for something that can be tested end to end
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:00): you can create a jira issue for a first version of the importer and then have subtask for that first version and when you have implemented them you can send an email asking for review
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:00): you should do that as much as possible
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:00): right now noboyd really now what works in your work and what's left to be done
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:01): s/now/know/
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:01): we talked about it internally and noboyd was able to tell the status
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:01): this is not good
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:01): you really need to have working stuff end to end and show it + communicate on the list/explain how to use it, etc
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:03): Ok.I never knew that.
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vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:05): otp
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:13): back
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:14): yes at this stage it's important to have something working even if it doesn't do everything
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:14): but at least something working end to end
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:14): that you can then work on improving step by step
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:15): you should also communicate more on the list and less on irc, irc is very bad in that only those present can talk and the others don't interact
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:15): for ex I'm giving you only my POV right now but the others can't do the same since they're not online....
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:15): (arunreddy_ )
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:15): :)
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:16): yeah. Actually i had mediawiki and confluence simple import working end to end
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:16): that's great!
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): you need to show it to others
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): explain you have it working
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): But as per your feed back i need to make changes in implementation.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): explain how we can reproduce it
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): you can show it while you make improvements
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:17): you need feedback from others
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:18): this really the open source way of working
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:18): you start small, you show, you get feedback, you improve, you show, you get feedback, etc
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:19): basically this is how we write software collaboratively
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:19): Ok. I will do that. Can i make a release with the exisiting implementation . ?
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): you can tag in the sandbox but not do a real release
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): you can install stuff on incubator though if you need to show something
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): release mean - some thing working that i can show to others.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): you can also install on your machine
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): and give access
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:20): you can also give instructions to install
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:21): I would like to install it on incubator. I dont have continous net access.
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:21): by taking the tagged sources and explain how to build them and deploy them
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:21): re incubator, fine, just send an email explaninig what needs to be done
anamarias - (02/08/2009 19:22): hi vmassol_ : what do you mean by tagged sources ?
arunreddy_ - (02/08/2009 19:22): 2 things. Import a XAR file and a component jar in Xwiki Lib
vmassol_ - (02/08/2009 19:22): svn move
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