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16 03:22 <ansuz> hola cjd
17 03:22 <cjd> hey ansuz
18 03:22 <cjd> sdumitriu1: around?
19 03:23 <cjd> just thought I'd introduce you guys since ansuz is attending uTorr (and setting up a cjdns network there) and you're working there (if my memory is correct)
20 03:23 <ansuz> ohhhh
21 03:24 <ansuz> I read uTorr as uTorrent
22 03:24 <ansuz> not utoronto
23 03:24 <ansuz> lol
24 03:24 <cjd> right sory
25 03:25 <ansuz> thanks for the intro, hi sdumitriul
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45 08:25 <ClemensR> tmortagne: ah, 5.4rc1 is out:) but release notes link has a '5' missing ;)
46 08:26 <tmortagne> crap, in the mail ?
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48 08:27 <tmortagne> ClemensR: fixed thanks
49 08:32 <vmassol> tmortagne: good morning
50 08:33 <vmassol> I think the updated translations is missing from http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki54RC1
51 08:33 <vmassol> and we need to ping manuel and sorin for filling the test section
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53 08:35 <vmassol> tmortagne: you didn't mention the reason for the breakage as we do usually
54 08:35 <tmortagne> vmassol: right, I forgot to update translation list, fixed
55 08:35 <vmassol> (the clirr section)
56 08:35 <vmassol> thanks
57 08:35 <vmassol> young api?
58 08:36 <tmortagne> there is no specific reason, just work in progress
59 08:36 <vmassol> btw we need to start reviewing all our @Unstable, sending mail
60 08:36 <vmassol> there's always a reason
61 08:37 <vmassol> since we don't break API by default
62 08:37 <vmassol> what was written in the pom.xml?
63 08:37 <tmortagne> nothing
64 08:37 <vmassol> that's bad then :)
65 08:38 <vmassol> that's why we have CLIRR for….
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67 08:38 <tmortagne> wikistream was still experimental
68 08:38 <tmortagne> there is only wikistream APIs in the list
69 08:38 <vmassol> then make sure you have @unstable and write "young API stabilizatnio". That's a reason
70 08:38 <vmassol> there's the filter too
71 08:38 <vmassol> no?
72 08:39 <tmortagne> filter ?
73 08:39 <vmassol> I see :
74 08:39 <vmassol> org.xwiki.filter.FilterEventParameters
75 08:39 <vmassol> ah no
76 08:39 <vmassol> it's just bad formatting
77 08:39 <vmassol> fixing
78 08:40 <tmortagne> I don't see have any bad formatting
79 08:40 <vmassol> check now, it should be easier to read
80 08:40 <tmortagne> again I don't have the issue you had
81 08:40 <tmortagne> it was one single line for me
82 08:41 <vmassol> ah
83 08:41 <vmassol> strange
84 08:41 <tmortagne> like it's supposed to with code macro
85 08:41 <tmortagne> s/to/with/
86 08:41 <vmassol> it was on 2 for me
87 08:41 <vmassol> and my screen is wide
88 08:41 <tmortagne> sounds like skin bug
89 08:41 <vmassol> yes we should ping caty
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92 08:42 <ClemensR> maybe the formatting issue is browser dependent?
93 08:42 <tmortagne> here is what is supposed to happen when the line is too long: http://tuska.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Test/Code
94 08:43 <tmortagne> I don't think it's browser dependent
95 08:43 <tmortagne> I get proper result with FF and chrome on http://tuska.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Test/Code and vmassol is using chrome
96 08:45 <vmassol> yes I'm pretty sure it has to do with the skin overwrite done by caty
97 08:46 <vmassol> btw guys, I'm off this morning (holidays) :)
98 08:46 <vmassol> and this afternoon I'm leaving early to travel to FOSDEM
99 08:47 <vmassol> verdict?
100 08:47 <ClemensR> oh, yes, this stuff is unlikely to be a browser issue
101 08:47 <tmortagne> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XINFRA-140
102 08:47 <vmassol> ok thx
103 09:17 <tmortagne> vmassol: looks like you forgot to finish with 5.2.3 on https://oss.sonatype.org/index.html#stagingRepositories ;)
104 09:21 <tmortagne> vmassol: should I finish it ?
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106 09:30 <vmassol> tmortagne: ah yes I forgot
107 09:30 <vmassol> yes please!
108 09:30 <vmassol> :)
109 09:30 <vmassol> thanks
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111 09:37 <tmortagne> vmassol: looks like I don't have the right to do it, it failed
112 09:38 <tmortagne> the close failed
113 09:38 <vmassol> trying
114 09:38 <tmortagne> hmm there is also a real error it seems "Missing MD5: '/org/xwiki/rendering/xwiki-rendering-syntax-docbook/5.2.3/xwiki-rendering-syntax-docbook-5.2.3.jar.md5'"
115 09:51 <vmassol> tmortagne: I'll drop 5.2.3 on sonatype and restart
116 09:51 <tmortagne> ok
117 09:52 <vmassol> ahah "You must release with Java 6!"
118 09:52 <vmassol> nice catch
119 09:52 <vmassol> ;)
120 09:52 <vmassol> for commons....
121 09:52 <vmassol> grrr
122 09:53 <vmassol> would you mind doing a:
123 09:53 <vmassol> mvn clean deploy -Prelease,legacy,standalone,integration-tests -DaltDeploymentRepository=sonatype-nexus-staging::default::https://oss.sonatype.org/service/local/staging/deploy/maven2 -DskipTests
124 09:53 <vmassol> on xwiki-commons-5.2.3
125 09:53 <vmassol> ?
126 09:53 <vmassol> :)
127 09:57 <tmortagne> ok lets do it
128 09:58 <vmassol> thanks
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132 10:08 <DarkKnightCZ> tmortagne: hi, i was looking into the "flush cache" feature yesterday and i thought of two possibilities... first is simply reusing what XWikiDocument.getRenderedContent does (if renderedContent is null), but this can't be used inside scripting (context gets nulled), so the second one is modifying also the rendering cache ( https://github.com/DarkKnightCZ/xwiki-platform/commit/1cd413e61b59bc768bed39fa13f5db733926e5a2 ), this works, but i'm not entirely s
133 10:10 <tmortagne> DarkKnightCZ: I taught you wanted to remove just one document and not clean the whole cache
134 10:12 <tmortagne> ideally I guess what we really need is a way for a document to indicate that it depends on another and when removing a document from the cache also remove its backward dependencies but that's a big thing
135 10:16 <DarkKnightCZ> oh, right, missed that :) yep, but i guess that would be counterproductive if cache is disabled (way to many references between documents)... well, there is another possibility, having the indicator in XWikiDocument and on every getRenderedContent check if that document has this indicator ( context.getWiki().getDocument(documentReference, context) )
136 10:17 <DarkKnightCZ> *RenderingCache.getRenderedContent
137 10:22 <tmortagne> even without cache it's useful informations when you edit a page
138 10:23 <tmortagne> you know that part of it might actually come from other pages etc
139 10:24 <tmortagne> right now you can be a bit lost, for example in the new sheet system we don't have an include to the sheet anymore so no include link listed on the right
140 10:28 <DarkKnightCZ> yep... but for it to be 100% accurate, it would require connection to every possible "document retrieval" method, wouldn't it? (macros, getdocument methods, etc.)
141 10:29 <tmortagne> as accurate as possible is still better than nothing :)
142 10:30 <tmortagne> and what I have in main is allow to do it explicitly in case it's too complex for automated ways
143 10:31 <tmortagne> for example putting an object in AllDocs indicating that it depends on well all docs :) That way if any document is modified AllDocs rendering cache would be invalidated
144 10:32 <DarkKnightCZ> i agree :) but i can think of two possibilities here - 1) document checks if someone is using him (would require to parse every document) - unaccurate (if its triggered on change) / too slow (on every view), 2) document check what uses (parse content and discover documents, checks their status, etc.), this could be done on update, but what about dynamic loading? (queries and such) -> so this also has to be done on every view
145 10:33 <DarkKnightCZ> and if wiki doesn't have caching, its another slowing down (and still no way to flush cache programmatically)
146 10:35 <tmortagne> as long as anyone can indicate explicit link we can do the automated once that are not an issue for performances when we find ways to do it
147 10:35 <tmortagne> the automated links would be bonuses
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150 10:44 <DarkKnightCZ> binding for macros and static content should be doable, xwikidocument could have timestamp property indicating cache time and list of document to monitor and on every rendering it would check if any of those documents has newer timestamp (in that case it wouldn't require scanning for documents on every view, only on edit)
151 10:55 <DarkKnightCZ> tmortagne: well, this should do the on-demand flushing - https://github.com/DarkKnightCZ/xwiki-platform/commit/7ac3ce5630eee49fa191511b91be3b73d6d1ec5b (tested on 5.4), i'm just not sure if this is the best way to obtain XWikiDocument
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153 11:08 <msmeria> vmassol: hello
154 11:08 <msmeria> can you tell me the exact steps you did for XWIKI-9955 ?
155 11:10 <msmeria> when I tried to migrate from 4.5.4 to 5.4rc1 I first clicked Continue and then Later and I was able to reproduce the bug
156 11:10 <msmeria> If I click Later at the beginning I get Main.WebHome with the old UI
157 11:12 <tmortagne> msmeria: I don't see how you could have the exact same thing you should have a new text saying "No document were modified during this Distribution Wizard."
158 11:13 <tmortagne> hmm wait
159 11:13 <msmeria> tmortagne: I know. I looked at your commit. but yet I could reproduce it
160 11:13 <tmortagne> maybe in all cases actually
161 11:13 <tmortagne> *not in
162 11:21 <msmeria> tmortagne: so just in the case of an actual upgrade with no actual changes ? I don't even know if that's possible
163 11:21 <tmortagne> msmeria: yes this is in case DW does nothing so an upgrade with no change (never knows...)
164 11:22 <tmortagne> this time it's in the right place
165 11:24 <msmeria> tmortagne: ok. I'll test it on the next snapshot
166 11:25 <tmortagne> msmeria: thanks
167 11:29 <DarkKnightCZ> how to get space name of xwikidocument? (since getSpace() is deprecated)
168 11:30 <tmortagne> DarkKnightCZ: you get it from the document reference
169 11:30 <tmortagne> basically everything provided by the reference has been deprecated
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172 11:31 <DarkKnightCZ> so doc.getDocumentReference().getParent().toString()?
173 11:33 <tmortagne> either getParent() or getLastSpaceReference() but getName() instead of toString()
174 11:34 <DarkKnightCZ> yep, thanks
175 11:34 <tmortagne> toString() gives you the complete serialized reference
176 11:34 <tmortagne> not the element name
177 11:35 <tmortagne> (unless you don't have any parent but in general it's better to not use toString() which is not really part of the API and more a debug helper)
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179 13:11 <msmeria> tmortagne: it seems XWIKI-9932 isn't fixed on 5.4rc1: I get "Error while preparing importing" when trying to import a XAR
180 13:23 <tmortagne> msmeria: you get that error where ?
181 13:24 <tmortagne> what was the issue in XWIKI-9932 is definitely fixed
182 13:24 <tmortagne> there was no error
183 13:24 <tmortagne> i was just not doing anything
184 13:28 <tmortagne> evalica: Hi
185 13:28 <tmortagne> could you look at XINFRA-140 ?
186 13:28 <tmortagne> seems to be an issue in xwiki.org skin with "code" class
187 13:29 <msmeria> tmortagne: I get that error on the Import page in the Administration
188 13:29 <msmeria> after I click Import
189 13:29 <tmortagne> what XAR did you use ?
190 13:29 <msmeria> it goes for a few seconds and then there's the error
191 13:29 <msmeria> I used org.xwiki.contrib-application-meeting-1.2.1.xar and xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki-all-5.4-rc-1.xar
192 13:30 <evalica> tmortagne: k
193 13:30 <msmeria> I got the error for both
194 13:31 <evalica> tmortagne: can you give me an example of page that uses the code macro?
195 13:32 <tmortagne> evalica: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWiki54RC1 at the end
196 13:34 <tmortagne> evalica: http://tuska.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Test/Code for how its supposed to behave
197 13:35 <tmortagne> msmeria: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Meeting+Application right ?
198 13:36 <tmortagne> this is weird that's the one I used after fixing XWIKI-9932
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200 13:39 <msmeria> tmortagne: yes, the same one
201 13:39 <tmortagne> it was working well for me, looks like something else broken it after that
202 13:40 <msmeria> I don't think the XAR is at fault though, since it also doesn't work with the UI XAR
203 13:40 <tmortagne> trying to reproduce
204 13:40 <tmortagne> (when Eclipse will want to work)
205 13:41 <tmortagne> msmeria: I doubt the issue come from the XAR since it used to work
206 13:41 <tmortagne> evalica: thanks
207 13:42 <tmortagne> evalica: hmm code is not the same thing
208 13:43 <tmortagne> s/code/box/
209 13:43 <evalica> what do you mean?
210 13:43 <evalica> the macro generates both classes,right? box > code
211 13:44 <tmortagne> the macro yes because the macro want both but code class should always have this behavior I think no matter if it's used with box or not
212 13:49 <tmortagne> msmeria: I don't understand, I don't get any error
213 13:49 <tmortagne> testing on master but there is no real difference with 5.4 yet
214 13:50 <tmortagne> you don't have anything else than this error ? some stack trace or anything that would give a bit more infirmations
215 13:50 <tmortagne> I will try to reproduce with 5.4RC1 specifically
216 13:52 <msmeria> tmortagne: I don't remember anything in the console. I'll retest again
217 13:53 <tmortagne> maybe in the log ?
218 13:56 <tmortagne> msmeria: I get no error on jetty/hsqldb 5.4RC1
219 13:56 <tmortagne> (on 6.0-SNAPSHOT I was testing on tomcat/mysql)
220 13:57 <tmortagne> ha no wait
221 13:57 <tmortagne> ok I see what you mean
222 13:57 <msmeria> tmortagne: I just retested this on 54rc1: I got nothing in the console and "Importing xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki-all-5.4-rc-1.xar: Error while preparing importing0 Document(s) installed0 Document(s) skipped0 Document(s) with error" on the page
223 13:57 <tmortagne> this is not really an error
224 13:57 <tmortagne> the document are actually imported
225 13:57 <tmortagne> you can check
226 13:58 <msmeria> so the message is wrong ?
227 13:58 <msmeria> for ex. "0 Document(s) installed"
228 13:58 <tmortagne> you get that message because the UI is looking at old packager for imported document and can't find any
229 13:58 <tmortagne> the refactoring is not complete yet
230 13:58 <tmortagne> that's what it's not by default
231 13:58 <msmeria> I see
232 13:59 <tmortagne> see jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9720 for the list of known limitations
233 13:59 <tmortagne> in this case it's "the report is directly gathered from PackageAPI"
234 14:00 <msmeria> yep. got it. thanks for the clarification
235 14:00 <tmortagne> since it was in blue I did not even seen its was written as an error
236 14:01 <tmortagne> evalica: the concept of bundled extension does not really exist in XWiki Repository, it's a xwiki.org customization
237 14:02 <tmortagne> it does not really make sense at generic repository application level
238 14:02 <evalica> the repository Application equals 'Repository' component?
239 14:02 <tmortagne> isn't what you were targeting ?
240 14:03 <tmortagne> Repository application is one part of 'Repository' component, it's the UI
241 14:03 <evalica> yes it was … that's why I don't understand … actually I will install it locally and see if it has the Bundled field
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243 14:03 <evalica> to see it it's generic of xwiki.org related
244 14:04 <evalica> *if
245 14:04 <tmortagne> evalica: it does not
246 14:04 <tmortagne> this field is defined in http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/EXOExtensionCode/ExtensionClass
247 14:04 <tmortagne> Repository application allow to plug other fields
248 14:05 <evalica> k - so this means the issue needs to be moved from Platform to Infra on xwiki.org component
249 14:05 <tmortagne> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/EXOExtensionCode/ contains a few extension.xwiki.org customizations
250 14:05 <evalica> k - didn't knew that - thanks
251 14:05 <tmortagne> could be rewritten as allowing to configure the field to show in the livetable at platform level
252 14:06 <tmortagne> and then add bundled field when in e.x.o.
253 14:07 <tmortagne> anyway without changing the title the right place is xwiki.org component on INFRA
254 14:08 <evalica> thanks Thomas
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259 14:46 <DarkKnightCZ> what does "groovy.lang.MissingPropertyException: No such property: Frequency" represent?
260 14:47 <DarkKnightCZ> oh, found it
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265 15:54 <DarkKnightCZ> "on failure the error message is stored in XWiki context" means what exactly? (http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Mail+Sender+Plugin)
266 16:01 <woshilapin> DarkKnightCZ: Did you tried to get an error message using '$xcontext.getMessage()'?
267 16:03 <woshilapin> http://nexus.xwiki.org/nexus/service/local/repositories/releases/archive/org/xwiki/platform/xwiki-platform-oldcore/5.3/xwiki-platform-oldcore-5.3-javadoc.jar/!/com/xpn/xwiki/api/Context.html#getMessage%28%29
268 16:06 <DarkKnightCZ> woshilapin: nope, thanks
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271 16:16 <sdumitriu1> ansuz: Hi
272 16:17 <sdumitriu1> Sorry, was away last night
273 16:29 <ansuz> hi sdumitriul
274 16:29 <ansuz> cjd tells me you work at uoft?
275 16:31 <ansuz> I'm a member of CASA, (the Cognitive science & Artificial intelligence Student's Association)
276 16:34 <sdumitriu1> ansuz: Not officially anymore, I'm working with Mike Brudno (prof) at SickKids
277 16:35 <ansuz> oh, neat
278 16:36 <ansuz> computational medicine? like protein folding?
279 16:36 <sdumitriu1> Higher level
280 16:36 <sdumitriu1> http://phenotips.org/
281 16:37 <ansuz> very interesting
282 16:37 <ansuz> I'm in my first year of my undergrad, but I'm a mature student, and they've waived a lot of my prereqs because of previous experience
283 16:38 <sdumitriu1> Looking for an internship/job?
284 16:38 <ansuz> I was planning on taking BCB420 this term, except it conflicted with CSC324 (principles of programming languages)
285 16:38 <ansuz> umm, maybe? haha
286 16:39 <ansuz> cjd said I should meet you cause I'm setting up a cjdns node on campus (UC)
287 16:40 <sdumitriu1> I wonder if that's allowed...
288 16:41 <ansuz> it's in the CASA office (UCF301), and they have their own network
289 16:41 <sdumitriu1> Most institutions are afraid of having a "proxy" on their network
290 16:42 <sdumitriu1> Oh, so it's not an official UofT network
291 16:42 <ansuz> right
292 16:43 <ansuz> at this point I'm just introducing other people to the idea
293 16:44 <ansuz> it's rare that anyone has ever had to work with ipv6 at this point
294 16:44 <sdumitriu1> Tell them it's been featured in the news
295 16:44 <sdumitriu1> Yeah, IPv6 adoption is so slow
296 16:44 <ansuz> mhm, and banned in Russia now
297 16:45 <ansuz> (hyperboria.net, not ipv6)
298 16:45 <ansuz> do you operate a node, then?
299 16:46 <sdumitriu1> Nope
300 16:46 <ansuz> I guess there's not a lot of reasons to, just yet
301 16:48 <sdumitriu1> I didn't even try it out yet, but I've been monitoring the progress
302 16:49 <ansuz> I'm hoping to find an excuse to work on it as a school project, algo-analysis or something
303 16:50 <ansuz> much more interesting than merge sort
304 16:50 <sdumitriu1> Oh yeah, first year algorithms...
305 16:50 <ansuz> yea, 324 is actually my first CSC course
306 16:50 <sdumitriu1> Let's learn all the stuff that nobody has to implement since all programming languages provide one method for that
307 16:50 <ansuz> it's depressing how little the 3rd years know
308 16:51 <ansuz> 'whats a command line?'
309 16:52 <sdumitriu1> That's fine, most "experienced" developers don't even know that
310 16:53 <ansuz> I spent the summer on hyperboria, so I guess I'm a little spoiled in terms of hacker culture
311 16:53 <ansuz> I'm guessing you work with a lot of stats, do you know a Dr Paul Corey? Bio-statistics at Dalla Lana..
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315 17:15 <ansuz> I'd better get going, I told the CASA folks I'd have their server working properly by the end of the day.
316 17:15 <ansuz> you might catch me lurking around here now and then
317 17:15 <ansuz> nice meeting you
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