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25 09:32 <flook> Enygma`, how should I start for the blame view project?
26 09:33 <vmassol1> good morning
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28 09:33 <vmassol> reminder: we have one week to finish 8.0, the final release is planned for the 14th of March, i.e. next Monday
29 09:33 <Enygma`> Hi flook. Please have a look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/GoogleSummerOfCode/Guidelines
30 09:34 <vmassol> gdelhumeau: you're ok to be the RM for 8.0 final? See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleasePlans/ I'm planning to release 6.4.8 Thursday on my side.
31 09:36 <gdelhumeau> I'll see with thomas if we can exchange maybe
32 09:36 <vmassol> actually, that reminds me that for the next release dates, i need to propose release dates that don't fall on Friday or Monday since you're off Fridays. And Thursday is also dangerous since it can mean postponing till Monday. So basically Tuesday or Wednesday. I think I'll propose Tuesday. WDYT?
33 09:37 <vmassol> ok I'll let you talk to Thomas
34 09:37 <flook> Enygma`, I went through that link
35 09:37 <flook> should I build xwiki ?
36 09:38 <Enygma`> flook: that link says "Usually, you don`t need to know how to build XWiki itself. What is more important is to understand is how to build applications/extensions on top of XWiki."
37 09:38 <flook> are there any bugs related to this?
38 09:39 <Enygma`> see the section below, "Increasing your chances of being accepted as a student"
39 09:39 <Enygma`> you need to get up to speed with XWiki, what it does and now to develop on top of the XWiki platform
40 09:39 <Enygma`> and then find an easy bug that you can fix by sending a Pull Request
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42 09:42 <flook> Enygma`, to fix a bug I'll have to set up the dev env.
43 09:42 <flook> that means I'll have to build xwiki
44 09:43 <Enygma`> not necessarily
45 09:43 <Enygma`> XWiki is a platform + applications
46 09:44 <Enygma`> it can be a bug inside an application (with code inside wiki pages)
47 09:44 <Enygma`> or it can be a bug in the platform (which can be java code, velocity templates, javascript)
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49 09:44 <Enygma`> you can work in a local instance that you can install for yourself
50 09:45 <Enygma`> also, you don`t need to run the entire XWiki build, which can take up to several hours
51 09:45 <Enygma`> but you can build a specific module which you are working on
52 09:45 <vmassol> but it could be a good step to know how to setup a dev env IMO. And for that you can follow http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/SourceRepository and http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building
53 09:45 <Enygma`> that could take 30 sec to 5 minutes
54 09:46 <Enygma`> as I`ve said, only partially. Don`t try to build the entire XWiki build since it would be a waste of time :)
55 09:46 <Enygma`> also, the blame project is an UI project so you need to work with velocity + HTML + CSS + JS
56 09:47 <vmassol> this is explained on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building btw
57 09:49 <Enygma`> flook: the bottom line is that your dev environment can be reduced to a running XWiki instance + a web browser
58 09:50 <flook> Enygma`, thanks
59 09:51 <vmassol> (that's because we code UIs in wiki pages and the blame API - written in Java - already exists. The goal of this project is to write the UI, aFAIK)
60 09:52 <Enygma`> yep
61 09:52 <flook> Enygma`, do I need to know JAVA for this one
62 09:53 <vmassol> flook: see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/GoogleSummerOfCode/BlameView
63 09:53 <vmassol> there's a developer profile section
64 09:54 <pakhandibaba> ok
65 09:54 <vmassol> so the answer is no, could be a plus if there's a need to modify the java api
66 09:54 <flook> thanks
67 09:54 <vmassol> it's also a plus to debug when there are issues
68 09:54 <vmassol> but otherwise no
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72 10:15 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Good morning!
73 10:16 <vmassol> good morning
74 10:16 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I am new with Xwiki, I happen to be trying the JAR file version for fast testing.
75 10:16 <vmassol> ok cool
76 10:16 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Yes, looks great!
77 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> When I want to include a page or space on the workspace through one of the include plugins, the page does not get displayed...
78 10:17 <vmassol> {{include reference:"..."/}}
79 10:17 <vmassol> ?
80 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> The root of this page is Wiki.Gmail
81 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Well, I just added the plugin and then I added the root of the page as Wiki.Gmail
82 10:18 <vmassol> I don't understand
83 10:18 <vmassol> what plugin?
84 10:18 <vmassol> you have a link?
85 10:18 <xwikiorg_guest_4> plugin = extension
86 10:18 <vmassol> what extension?
87 10:18 <vmassol> :)
88 10:19 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Sorry for my wrong vocabulary, just learning about it :)
89 10:19 <vmassol> there's no need for a extension for include
90 10:19 <vmassol> which is why I'm asking
91 10:19 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I tried with Include Macro
92 10:20 <vmassol> includes must be done with the include macro ({{include}}) or the display macro ({{display}})
93 10:20 <vmassol> you need to provide a valid reference to the page to include
94 10:22 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I thought I was doing that, but I am wondering how can I find the valid reference to be completely sure
95 10:23 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I have searched the from the root and saw all spaces. Compared that page with another page -> the welcome wiki included in the workspace
96 10:23 <xwikiorg_guest_4> and for the welcome wiki it did worked again, but for the new wiki I created it didn't work
97 10:26 <xwikiorg_guest_4> @vmassol do you know if it could be related to something like rights management?
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99 10:43 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Good morning! I've closed by mistake the tab and failed to see previous response
100 10:45 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I have something I want to clarify. I am trying to make work the include macro. But I don't know what I am doing wrong. I take as an example the Welcome Wiki which has in the include macro Reference: Main.Welcome. Nevertheless, it appears to be on the Pages Macro on Home-> Welcome to your wiki. I can see that the url that it points out is Home/Welcome...
101 10:46 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Now, if I take another example from the same default Pages macro included in the workspace. Let's say Blog->First blog post, it points out to URL /Blog/BlogIntroduction
102 10:46 <xwikiorg_guest_8> If I try to include in an include macro the reference as Blog.BlogIntroduction it does not work
103 10:47 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I guess first of all, my question would be. How do I find out the reference from pages or spaces so I can include them in macros and make them display?
104 10:47 <Pbas> Hi guest, what is your URL on the page where you want include another page?
105 10:47 <Pbas> could you give both URL?
106 10:48 <Pbas> you can remove server name of course
107 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Yes of course, I am just trying to make this macro work
108 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> So I take the default pages that come with Xwiki
109 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> 8080/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BlogIntroduction
110 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Ok, let me find another one
111 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :8080/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/TestPage1
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113 10:50 <Pbas> This page is the page you want include?
114 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Ok, that one works out like Sandbox.TestPage1
115 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I was trying to test but I see that this one works as well
116 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> are the references then taken out from the URL?
117 10:51 <Pbas> Blog contains "special" page because it is an application
118 10:51 <Pbas> If you edit source of a blog entry you can see it
119 10:52 <Pbas> it seem empty (you must edit a blog entry with object editor)
120 10:52 <xwikiorg_guest_8> For example, I now created a page called "Hola" behind the XWiki page... The URL of this new page is :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/
121 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> and if I try to include XWiki.Hola it doesn't work
122 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> the XWiki.Hola has text inside the page to be displayed in the macro and it's not display
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124 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I am logged in as Administrator
125 10:54 <Pbas> Do you edit code include or use macro from editor tool?
126 10:55 <Pbas> What is the URL of main page you want display include one?
127 10:55 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/
128 10:56 <Pbas> this one is the page you want include
129 10:56 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I have added an include macro on :8080/xwiki/bin/view/Dashboard/, I want on that include macro to display a new wiki page I have created which is under :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/
130 10:56 <Pbas> ok
131 10:58 <Pbas> {{include reference="XWiki.Hola"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola"/}} doesn't work?
132 10:58 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I was using the edit pencil on top of the macro instead of that
133 10:58 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Shall I write that on the Reference on the same UI?
134 10:59 <Pbas> Edit /xwiki/bin/view/Dashboard/ with wiki editor to paste/check include code
135 11:02 <ClemensR> for the dashboard it is probably in the object editor, in one of the XWiki.GadgetClass objects
136 11:04 <Pbas> ok thxs for your help :)
137 11:04 <ClemensR> the "reference" field should contain "XWiki.Hola" , as Pbas said. Then it should work
138 11:05 <vmassol> actually it won't
139 11:05 <vmassol> you need XWiki.Hola.WebHome
140 11:05 <vmassol> since your URL is :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/
141 11:05 <vmassol> if it were XWiki/Hola then XWiki.Hola would be good
142 11:06 <vmassol> xwikiorg_guest_8: we're missing shortcuts for nested pages in macro parameters ATM
143 11:06 <xwikiorg_guest_8> it should be edited with the wiki editor inside the macro?
144 11:06 <vmassol> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13066
145 11:07 <vmassol> xwikiorg_guest_8: you can use the wiki editor or the wysiwyg editor, as you wish
146 11:07 <vmassol> I was just giving you the proper reference to use
147 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I will try with the WebHome, what is the reason of this?
148 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> It works with the WebHome!
149 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :)
150 11:07 <vmassol> if you're up for reasing a bit: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/ContentOrganization#HHistory ;)
151 11:08 <vmassol> *reading
152 11:08 <vmassol> in short:
153 11:08 <vmassol> we're transitioning to Nested Pages
154 11:08 <vmassol> ie ability to create children pages
155 11:08 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Of course I am up, I want to understand why this is happening because in other cases it might be different and I will need to see how that is in order to include the appropiate reference
156 11:08 <vmassol> and this is one of the few remaining things to iron out
157 11:09 <vmassol> things = ability to hide WebHome
158 11:09 <xwikiorg_guest_8> so is soon to be changed ?
159 11:09 <vmassol> using WebHome will always work
160 11:09 <vmassol> but we want to make it simpler
161 11:09 <vmassol> and automaitcally add the WebHome part for you
162 11:09 <vmassol> so in short:
163 11:09 <vmassol> - our internal model supports only pages (hence the WebHome part)
164 11:10 <vmassol> - our UI is now hiding the concept of spaces and it simulates only pages
165 11:10 <vmassol> a bit difficult to understand
166 11:10 <vmassol> you should read that link and come back with questions after :)
167 11:10 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I will read it, thanks in advance Vincent :)
168 11:11 <vmassol> "our internal model supports only pages " not correct actually. What I meant is that our internal model suports Nested Spaces + Pages, ie a reference always ends with a page name
169 11:12 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Which at the moment seems to be WebHome I guess
170 11:12 <vmassol> when you create a page in the UI
171 11:12 <vmassol> what we do is create a space of that name
172 11:12 <vmassol> and inside that space a page named WebHome
173 11:12 <vmassol> this gives the ability to create other pages inside that "space"
174 11:13 <vmassol> which as a user you see as the ability to create Nested Pages
175 11:13 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Perfect! One more question, if I would have wanted to include as {{include reference="XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}}
176 11:13 <xwikiorg_guest_8> How could have I done that? I was looking into that but couldn't find the place to insert that reference in the source code
177 11:13 <vmassol> "when you create a page in the UI" that's unless you decide to create a "terminal page" (this option is visible to advanced users)
178 11:14 <vmassol> I don't understand
179 11:14 <vmassol> what source ode?
180 11:14 <vmassol> *code
181 11:14 <vmassol> what you pasted is wiki syntax
182 11:14 <vmassol> (XWiki Syntax 2.0+ to be precise)
183 11:14 <Pbas> It is on dashboard Vincent
184 11:14 <vmassol> ah
185 11:14 <xwikiorg_guest_8> On Dashboard -> Edit -> WYSIWYG -> Source
186 11:14 <vmassol> so the question is how to edit a dashboard using wiki editor
187 11:14 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Was it there the place where I was supposed to put that code or where?
188 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> It could be formulated in that way as well, yes
189 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I don't know how I could have done that in the other way
190 11:15 <vmassol> here: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Dashboard+Macro#HAdvancedgadgetsediting
191 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> With these references => {{include reference="XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}}
192 11:16 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Cool, will try that. Thanks again!
193 11:16 <vmassol> np, thanks for bearing with our quirks ;)
194 11:16 <Pbas> A tip to find reference: Ctrl + G
195 11:17 <vmassol> actually Pbas: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+can+I+navigate+to+a+given+page
196 11:17 <vmassol> sorry
197 11:17 <vmassol> thought you were telling xwikiorg_guest_8 how to navigate
198 11:17 <vmassol> but yes good tip to find a reference
199 11:17 <Pbas> yes since nested page :-)
200 11:18 <Pbas> Ctrl + G and copy/paste
201 11:18 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Pbas.. interesting tip that one, found the WebHome at the end when looking for it :)
202 11:19 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Thanks again guys!
203 11:19 <Pbas> I use this way if I want check if it is a terminal page or not.
204 11:19 <Pbas> np (sorry for all my mistake ;-) )
205 11:20 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Why would you want to know whether is a terminal page or not?
206 11:20 <Pbas> To retrieve page reference (without WebHome or not)
207 11:21 <vmassol> it's also easy to deduce it from the URL
208 11:22 <Pbas> for the pro only ;-))
209 11:22 <vmassol> you just need to know that "/" at the end of a URL is a shortcut for "WebHome"
210 11:22 <vmassol> that's all you need really
211 11:22 <vmassol> you can try replacing "/" with "/WebHome" and you'll see that it works ;)
212 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> That's good enough for now, great! :)
213 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Next will be looking into Developer guides and how could I contribute :)
214 11:23 <vmassol> awesome! :)
215 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I should consider doing a user here instead of being xwikiorg_guest
216 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :D
217 11:23 <vmassol> yep :)
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232 15:09 <vmassol> creating wiki on myxwiki.org for user
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235 15:32 <vmassol> ouch NPE on xwiki.org: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists?viewer=changes&amp;rev2=32.3
236 15:33 <vmassol> creating tooltip macro jira
237 15:37 <gdelhumeau> I can't create a subwiki on a buit snapshot
238 15:37 <gdelhumeau> Allowed namespace list [wiki:(] does not matches namespace [wiki:subwiki]
239 15:38 <gdelhumeau> same with DW: Allowed namespace list [[[wiki:(?!xwiki)]]] does not matches namespace [wiki:subwiki]
240 15:40 <vmassol> looks like error one user reported this morning
241 15:40 <vmassol> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XE-1535
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243 16:11 <asam> @Enygma. May I, the know the URl of repository of the "Blame View" Module?
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245 16:19 <ClemensR> @asam: this one: https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/tree/master/xwiki-commons-core/xwiki-commons-blame ?
246 16:20 <asam> Thanks :)
247 16:23 <asam> bug list for this repository?
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249 16:24 <vmassol> creating the jira compnent, it's missing
250 16:25 <vmassol> asam: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS/component/14560#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Acomponent-issues-panel
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267 18:44 <darshan> Hey I am interested in android authenticator project
268 18:44 <darshan> I compiled and built the app
269 18:44 <darshan> However I am unable to login to my XWiki account
270 18:45 <darshan> It throws a toast saying 404
271 18:45 <darshan> I tried with xwiki.org and playground.xwiki.org as server url
272 18:52 <asam> vmassol: is there is any offical documentation to bluid xwiki-commons repository on system?
273 18:55 <vmassol> asam: hi sure see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building
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275 18:57 <asam> thanks
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277 19:12 <Enygma`> asam: remember that you don`t need to build the entire repository
278 19:12 <Enygma`> just the modules you need
279 19:13 <Enygma`> the setup is the same, just the build itself should be limited to the actual module to avoid wasting time in building everything
280 19:14 <asam> ok but can you suggest me the link so i can build the specific module?
281 19:14 <vmassol> asam: why do you want to build any(thing?
282 19:14 <vmassol> (if you answer that question you'll answer yours ;))
283 19:15 <Enygma`> to develop for the Blame View project all you really need is an XWiki instance and a browser
284 19:16 <Enygma`> now, once you get to packaging your code as an XWiki extension, then you might need to create a maven module (for the UI part)
285 19:16 <asam> ok. :)
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