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25 | 09:32 <flook> Enygma`, how should I start for the blame view project? | ||
26 | 09:33 <vmassol1> good morning | ||
27 | 09:33 <vmassol1> is now known as <vmassol> | ||
28 | 09:33 <vmassol> reminder: we have one week to finish 8.0, the final release is planned for the 14th of March, i.e. next Monday | ||
29 | 09:33 <Enygma`> Hi flook. Please have a look at http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/GoogleSummerOfCode/Guidelines | ||
30 | 09:34 <vmassol> gdelhumeau: you're ok to be the RM for 8.0 final? See http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleasePlans/ I'm planning to release 6.4.8 Thursday on my side. | ||
31 | 09:36 <gdelhumeau> I'll see with thomas if we can exchange maybe | ||
32 | 09:36 <vmassol> actually, that reminds me that for the next release dates, i need to propose release dates that don't fall on Friday or Monday since you're off Fridays. And Thursday is also dangerous since it can mean postponing till Monday. So basically Tuesday or Wednesday. I think I'll propose Tuesday. WDYT? | ||
33 | 09:37 <vmassol> ok I'll let you talk to Thomas | ||
34 | 09:37 <flook> Enygma`, I went through that link | ||
35 | 09:37 <flook> should I build xwiki ? | ||
36 | 09:38 <Enygma`> flook: that link says "Usually, you don`t need to know how to build XWiki itself. What is more important is to understand is how to build applications/extensions on top of XWiki." | ||
37 | 09:38 <flook> are there any bugs related to this? | ||
38 | 09:39 <Enygma`> see the section below, "Increasing your chances of being accepted as a student" | ||
39 | 09:39 <Enygma`> you need to get up to speed with XWiki, what it does and now to develop on top of the XWiki platform | ||
40 | 09:39 <Enygma`> and then find an easy bug that you can fix by sending a Pull Request | ||
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42 | 09:42 <flook> Enygma`, to fix a bug I'll have to set up the dev env. | ||
43 | 09:42 <flook> that means I'll have to build xwiki | ||
44 | 09:43 <Enygma`> not necessarily | ||
45 | 09:43 <Enygma`> XWiki is a platform + applications | ||
46 | 09:44 <Enygma`> it can be a bug inside an application (with code inside wiki pages) | ||
47 | 09:44 <Enygma`> or it can be a bug in the platform (which can be java code, velocity templates, javascript) | ||
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49 | 09:44 <Enygma`> you can work in a local instance that you can install for yourself | ||
50 | 09:45 <Enygma`> also, you don`t need to run the entire XWiki build, which can take up to several hours | ||
51 | 09:45 <Enygma`> but you can build a specific module which you are working on | ||
52 | 09:45 <vmassol> but it could be a good step to know how to setup a dev env IMO. And for that you can follow http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/SourceRepository and http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building | ||
53 | 09:45 <Enygma`> that could take 30 sec to 5 minutes | ||
54 | 09:46 <Enygma`> as I`ve said, only partially. Don`t try to build the entire XWiki build since it would be a waste of time :) | ||
55 | 09:46 <Enygma`> also, the blame project is an UI project so you need to work with velocity + HTML + CSS + JS | ||
56 | 09:47 <vmassol> this is explained on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building btw | ||
57 | 09:49 <Enygma`> flook: the bottom line is that your dev environment can be reduced to a running XWiki instance + a web browser | ||
58 | 09:50 <flook> Enygma`, thanks | ||
59 | 09:51 <vmassol> (that's because we code UIs in wiki pages and the blame API - written in Java - already exists. The goal of this project is to write the UI, aFAIK) | ||
60 | 09:52 <Enygma`> yep | ||
61 | 09:52 <flook> Enygma`, do I need to know JAVA for this one | ||
62 | 09:53 <vmassol> flook: see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/GoogleSummerOfCode/BlameView | ||
63 | 09:53 <vmassol> there's a developer profile section | ||
64 | 09:54 <pakhandibaba> ok | ||
65 | 09:54 <vmassol> so the answer is no, could be a plus if there's a need to modify the java api | ||
66 | 09:54 <flook> thanks | ||
67 | 09:54 <vmassol> it's also a plus to debug when there are issues | ||
68 | 09:54 <vmassol> but otherwise no | ||
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72 | 10:15 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Good morning! | ||
73 | 10:16 <vmassol> good morning | ||
74 | 10:16 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I am new with Xwiki, I happen to be trying the JAR file version for fast testing. | ||
75 | 10:16 <vmassol> ok cool | ||
76 | 10:16 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Yes, looks great! | ||
77 | 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> When I want to include a page or space on the workspace through one of the include plugins, the page does not get displayed... | ||
78 | 10:17 <vmassol> {{include reference:"..."/}} | ||
79 | 10:17 <vmassol> ? | ||
80 | 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> The root of this page is Wiki.Gmail | ||
81 | 10:17 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Well, I just added the plugin and then I added the root of the page as Wiki.Gmail | ||
82 | 10:18 <vmassol> I don't understand | ||
83 | 10:18 <vmassol> what plugin? | ||
84 | 10:18 <vmassol> you have a link? | ||
85 | 10:18 <xwikiorg_guest_4> plugin = extension | ||
86 | 10:18 <vmassol> what extension? | ||
87 | 10:18 <vmassol> :) | ||
88 | 10:19 <xwikiorg_guest_4> Sorry for my wrong vocabulary, just learning about it :) | ||
89 | 10:19 <vmassol> there's no need for a extension for include | ||
90 | 10:19 <vmassol> which is why I'm asking | ||
91 | 10:19 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I tried with Include Macro | ||
92 | 10:20 <vmassol> includes must be done with the include macro ({{include}}) or the display macro ({{display}}) | ||
93 | 10:20 <vmassol> you need to provide a valid reference to the page to include | ||
94 | 10:22 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I thought I was doing that, but I am wondering how can I find the valid reference to be completely sure | ||
95 | 10:23 <xwikiorg_guest_4> I have searched the from the root and saw all spaces. Compared that page with another page -> the welcome wiki included in the workspace | ||
96 | 10:23 <xwikiorg_guest_4> and for the welcome wiki it did worked again, but for the new wiki I created it didn't work | ||
97 | 10:26 <xwikiorg_guest_4> @vmassol do you know if it could be related to something like rights management? | ||
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99 | 10:43 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Good morning! I've closed by mistake the tab and failed to see previous response | ||
100 | 10:45 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I have something I want to clarify. I am trying to make work the include macro. But I don't know what I am doing wrong. I take as an example the Welcome Wiki which has in the include macro Reference: Main.Welcome. Nevertheless, it appears to be on the Pages Macro on Home-> Welcome to your wiki. I can see that the url that it points out is Home/Welcome... | ||
101 | 10:46 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Now, if I take another example from the same default Pages macro included in the workspace. Let's say Blog->First blog post, it points out to URL /Blog/BlogIntroduction | ||
102 | 10:46 <xwikiorg_guest_8> If I try to include in an include macro the reference as Blog.BlogIntroduction it does not work | ||
103 | 10:47 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I guess first of all, my question would be. How do I find out the reference from pages or spaces so I can include them in macros and make them display? | ||
104 | 10:47 <Pbas> Hi guest, what is your URL on the page where you want include another page? | ||
105 | 10:47 <Pbas> could you give both URL? | ||
106 | 10:48 <Pbas> you can remove server name of course | ||
107 | 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Yes of course, I am just trying to make this macro work | ||
108 | 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> So I take the default pages that come with Xwiki | ||
109 | 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> 8080/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/BlogIntroduction | ||
110 | 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Ok, let me find another one | ||
111 | 10:49 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :8080/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/TestPage1 | ||
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113 | 10:50 <Pbas> This page is the page you want include? | ||
114 | 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Ok, that one works out like Sandbox.TestPage1 | ||
115 | 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I was trying to test but I see that this one works as well | ||
116 | 10:50 <xwikiorg_guest_8> are the references then taken out from the URL? | ||
117 | 10:51 <Pbas> Blog contains "special" page because it is an application | ||
118 | 10:51 <Pbas> If you edit source of a blog entry you can see it | ||
119 | 10:52 <Pbas> it seem empty (you must edit a blog entry with object editor) | ||
120 | 10:52 <xwikiorg_guest_8> For example, I now created a page called "Hola" behind the XWiki page... The URL of this new page is :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/ | ||
121 | 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> and if I try to include XWiki.Hola it doesn't work | ||
122 | 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> the XWiki.Hola has text inside the page to be displayed in the macro and it's not display | ||
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124 | 10:53 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I am logged in as Administrator | ||
125 | 10:54 <Pbas> Do you edit code include or use macro from editor tool? | ||
126 | 10:55 <Pbas> What is the URL of main page you want display include one? | ||
127 | 10:55 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/ | ||
128 | 10:56 <Pbas> this one is the page you want include | ||
129 | 10:56 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I have added an include macro on :8080/xwiki/bin/view/Dashboard/, I want on that include macro to display a new wiki page I have created which is under :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/ | ||
130 | 10:56 <Pbas> ok | ||
131 | 10:58 <Pbas> {{include reference="XWiki.Hola"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola"/}} doesn't work? | ||
132 | 10:58 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I was using the edit pencil on top of the macro instead of that | ||
133 | 10:58 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Shall I write that on the Reference on the same UI? | ||
134 | 10:59 <Pbas> Edit /xwiki/bin/view/Dashboard/ with wiki editor to paste/check include code | ||
135 | 11:02 <ClemensR> for the dashboard it is probably in the object editor, in one of the XWiki.GadgetClass objects | ||
136 | 11:04 <Pbas> ok thxs for your help :) | ||
137 | 11:04 <ClemensR> the "reference" field should contain "XWiki.Hola" , as Pbas said. Then it should work | ||
138 | 11:05 <vmassol> actually it won't | ||
139 | 11:05 <vmassol> you need XWiki.Hola.WebHome | ||
140 | 11:05 <vmassol> since your URL is :8080/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Hola/ | ||
141 | 11:05 <vmassol> if it were XWiki/Hola then XWiki.Hola would be good | ||
142 | 11:06 <vmassol> xwikiorg_guest_8: we're missing shortcuts for nested pages in macro parameters ATM | ||
143 | 11:06 <xwikiorg_guest_8> it should be edited with the wiki editor inside the macro? | ||
144 | 11:06 <vmassol> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13066 | ||
145 | 11:07 <vmassol> xwikiorg_guest_8: you can use the wiki editor or the wysiwyg editor, as you wish | ||
146 | 11:07 <vmassol> I was just giving you the proper reference to use | ||
147 | 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I will try with the WebHome, what is the reason of this? | ||
148 | 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> It works with the WebHome! | ||
149 | 11:07 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :) | ||
150 | 11:07 <vmassol> if you're up for reasing a bit: http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/ContentOrganization#HHistory ;) | ||
151 | 11:08 <vmassol> *reading | ||
152 | 11:08 <vmassol> in short: | ||
153 | 11:08 <vmassol> we're transitioning to Nested Pages | ||
154 | 11:08 <vmassol> ie ability to create children pages | ||
155 | 11:08 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Of course I am up, I want to understand why this is happening because in other cases it might be different and I will need to see how that is in order to include the appropiate reference | ||
156 | 11:08 <vmassol> and this is one of the few remaining things to iron out | ||
157 | 11:09 <vmassol> things = ability to hide WebHome | ||
158 | 11:09 <xwikiorg_guest_8> so is soon to be changed ? | ||
159 | 11:09 <vmassol> using WebHome will always work | ||
160 | 11:09 <vmassol> but we want to make it simpler | ||
161 | 11:09 <vmassol> and automaitcally add the WebHome part for you | ||
162 | 11:09 <vmassol> so in short: | ||
163 | 11:09 <vmassol> - our internal model supports only pages (hence the WebHome part) | ||
164 | 11:10 <vmassol> - our UI is now hiding the concept of spaces and it simulates only pages | ||
165 | 11:10 <vmassol> a bit difficult to understand | ||
166 | 11:10 <vmassol> you should read that link and come back with questions after :) | ||
167 | 11:10 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I will read it, thanks in advance Vincent :) | ||
168 | 11:11 <vmassol> "our internal model supports only pages " not correct actually. What I meant is that our internal model suports Nested Spaces + Pages, ie a reference always ends with a page name | ||
169 | 11:12 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Which at the moment seems to be WebHome I guess | ||
170 | 11:12 <vmassol> when you create a page in the UI | ||
171 | 11:12 <vmassol> what we do is create a space of that name | ||
172 | 11:12 <vmassol> and inside that space a page named WebHome | ||
173 | 11:12 <vmassol> this gives the ability to create other pages inside that "space" | ||
174 | 11:13 <vmassol> which as a user you see as the ability to create Nested Pages | ||
175 | 11:13 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Perfect! One more question, if I would have wanted to include as {{include reference="XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} | ||
176 | 11:13 <xwikiorg_guest_8> How could have I done that? I was looking into that but couldn't find the place to insert that reference in the source code | ||
177 | 11:13 <vmassol> "when you create a page in the UI" that's unless you decide to create a "terminal page" (this option is visible to advanced users) | ||
178 | 11:14 <vmassol> I don't understand | ||
179 | 11:14 <vmassol> what source ode? | ||
180 | 11:14 <vmassol> *code | ||
181 | 11:14 <vmassol> what you pasted is wiki syntax | ||
182 | 11:14 <vmassol> (XWiki Syntax 2.0+ to be precise) | ||
183 | 11:14 <Pbas> It is on dashboard Vincent | ||
184 | 11:14 <vmassol> ah | ||
185 | 11:14 <xwikiorg_guest_8> On Dashboard -> Edit -> WYSIWYG -> Source | ||
186 | 11:14 <vmassol> so the question is how to edit a dashboard using wiki editor | ||
187 | 11:14 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Was it there the place where I was supposed to put that code or where? | ||
188 | 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> It could be formulated in that way as well, yes | ||
189 | 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I don't know how I could have done that in the other way | ||
190 | 11:15 <vmassol> here: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Dashboard+Macro#HAdvancedgadgetsediting | ||
191 | 11:15 <xwikiorg_guest_8> With these references => {{include reference="XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} or {{include reference="xwiki:XWiki.Hola.WebHome"/}} | ||
192 | 11:16 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Cool, will try that. Thanks again! | ||
193 | 11:16 <vmassol> np, thanks for bearing with our quirks ;) | ||
194 | 11:16 <Pbas> A tip to find reference: Ctrl + G | ||
195 | 11:17 <vmassol> actually Pbas: http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/How+can+I+navigate+to+a+given+page | ||
196 | 11:17 <vmassol> sorry | ||
197 | 11:17 <vmassol> thought you were telling xwikiorg_guest_8 how to navigate | ||
198 | 11:17 <vmassol> but yes good tip to find a reference | ||
199 | 11:17 <Pbas> yes since nested page :-) | ||
200 | 11:18 <Pbas> Ctrl + G and copy/paste | ||
201 | 11:18 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Pbas.. interesting tip that one, found the WebHome at the end when looking for it :) | ||
202 | 11:19 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Thanks again guys! | ||
203 | 11:19 <Pbas> I use this way if I want check if it is a terminal page or not. | ||
204 | 11:19 <Pbas> np (sorry for all my mistake ;-) ) | ||
205 | 11:20 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Why would you want to know whether is a terminal page or not? | ||
206 | 11:20 <Pbas> To retrieve page reference (without WebHome or not) | ||
207 | 11:21 <vmassol> it's also easy to deduce it from the URL | ||
208 | 11:22 <Pbas> for the pro only ;-)) | ||
209 | 11:22 <vmassol> you just need to know that "/" at the end of a URL is a shortcut for "WebHome" | ||
210 | 11:22 <vmassol> that's all you need really | ||
211 | 11:22 <vmassol> you can try replacing "/" with "/WebHome" and you'll see that it works ;) | ||
212 | 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> That's good enough for now, great! :) | ||
213 | 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> Next will be looking into Developer guides and how could I contribute :) | ||
214 | 11:23 <vmassol> awesome! :) | ||
215 | 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> I should consider doing a user here instead of being xwikiorg_guest | ||
216 | 11:23 <xwikiorg_guest_8> :D | ||
217 | 11:23 <vmassol> yep :) | ||
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232 | 15:09 <vmassol> creating wiki on myxwiki.org for user | ||
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235 | 15:32 <vmassol> ouch NPE on xwiki.org: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists?viewer=changes&rev2=32.3 | ||
236 | 15:33 <vmassol> creating tooltip macro jira | ||
237 | 15:37 <gdelhumeau> I can't create a subwiki on a buit snapshot | ||
238 | 15:37 <gdelhumeau> Allowed namespace list [wiki:(] does not matches namespace [wiki:subwiki] | ||
239 | 15:38 <gdelhumeau> same with DW: Allowed namespace list [[[wiki:(?!xwiki)]]] does not matches namespace [wiki:subwiki] | ||
240 | 15:40 <vmassol> looks like error one user reported this morning | ||
241 | 15:40 <vmassol> https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XE-1535 | ||
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243 | 16:11 <asam> @Enygma. May I, the know the URl of repository of the "Blame View" Module? | ||
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245 | 16:19 <ClemensR> @asam: this one: https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-commons/tree/master/xwiki-commons-core/xwiki-commons-blame ? | ||
246 | 16:20 <asam> Thanks :) | ||
247 | 16:23 <asam> bug list for this repository? | ||
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249 | 16:24 <vmassol> creating the jira compnent, it's missing | ||
250 | 16:25 <vmassol> asam: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XCOMMONS/component/14560#selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project%3Acomponent-issues-panel | ||
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267 | 18:44 <darshan> Hey I am interested in android authenticator project | ||
268 | 18:44 <darshan> I compiled and built the app | ||
269 | 18:44 <darshan> However I am unable to login to my XWiki account | ||
270 | 18:45 <darshan> It throws a toast saying 404 | ||
271 | 18:45 <darshan> I tried with xwiki.org and playground.xwiki.org as server url | ||
272 | 18:52 <asam> vmassol: is there is any offical documentation to bluid xwiki-commons repository on system? | ||
273 | 18:55 <vmassol> asam: hi sure see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Building | ||
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275 | 18:57 <asam> thanks | ||
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277 | 19:12 <Enygma`> asam: remember that you don`t need to build the entire repository | ||
278 | 19:12 <Enygma`> just the modules you need | ||
279 | 19:13 <Enygma`> the setup is the same, just the build itself should be limited to the actual module to avoid wasting time in building everything | ||
280 | 19:14 <asam> ok but can you suggest me the link so i can build the specific module? | ||
281 | 19:14 <vmassol> asam: why do you want to build any(thing? | ||
282 | 19:14 <vmassol> (if you answer that question you'll answer yours ;)) | ||
283 | 19:15 <Enygma`> to develop for the Blame View project all you really need is an XWiki instance and a browser | ||
284 | 19:16 <Enygma`> now, once you get to packaging your code as an XWiki extension, then you might need to create a maven module (for the UI part) | ||
285 | 19:16 <asam> ok. :) | ||
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