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Vincent Massol 1.6 6 08:48 <vmassol> sonar licenses updated!
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Vincent Massol 1.9 9 09:27 <vmassol> one less job failing :)
Vincent Massol 1.10 10 09:29 <vmassol> haha found something for the stackoverflow issue of the quality job, trying it....
Vincent Massol 1.11 11 09:33 <vmassol> done, we'll see during the next job runs if it works or not
Vincent Massol 1.12 12 09:33 <vmassol> (FYI see the "notes" on http://ci.xwiki.org/ where I explained what I added)
Vincent Massol 1.13 13 09:33 <vmassol> (the XX:ThreadStackSize thing)
Vincent Massol 1.14 14 09:35 <vmassol> fixing quality job on 7.4.X branch: [WARNING] Rule violated for bundle XWiki Platform - Legacy - Model: instructions covered ratio is 0.34, but expected minimum is 1.00
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Vincent Massol 1.16 16 09:43 <vmassol> guys rest tests are still failing on master: http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-enterprise-test-rest/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
Vincent Massol 1.17 17 09:44 <vmassol> there's also some NPE in the logs
Vincent Massol 1.18 18 09:44 <vmassol> for ex http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-enterprise-test-rest/lastCompletedBuild/org.xwiki.enterprise$xwiki-enterprise-test-rest/testReport/org.xwiki.test.rest/WikisResourceTest/testSolrSearch/
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Vincent Massol 1.20 20 09:57 <vmassol> tmortagne: good morning, I'll need your help to fix the javadoc ^^^^^ (not urgent)
Vincent Massol 1.21 21 09:58 <vmassol> (I made some progress on the javadoc job for platform but I'm stuck on those right now and it's bit difficult for me to fix them)
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Vincent Massol 1.24 24 10:06 <tmortagne> vmassol: E is the type of the entity (BaseClass, BaseObject, XWikiDocument, etc.)
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Vincent Massol 1.27 27 10:10 <vmassol> Enygma`: ^^^^ :) We need to do something about this and have the style we want by default IMO
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Vincent Massol 1.29 29 10:13 <Enygma`> vmassol: you mean about the image macro?
Vincent Massol 1.30 30 10:14 <vmassol> yeah
Vincent Massol 1.31 31 10:14 <vmassol> this has been tickling me for a long time now
Vincent Massol 1.32 32 10:15 <Enygma`> we can control the styling from the sheet
Vincent Massol 1.33 33 10:16 <Enygma`> but the autolink (when the image is resized) needs to come from rendering
Vincent Massol 1.34 34 10:16 <vmassol> there are 2 aspects: 1) having a solution for xwiki.org and 2) having a solution for the product
Vincent Massol 1.35 35 10:16 <vmassol> I think I have a jira issue for the product somewhere
Vincent Massol 1.36 36 10:17 <vmassol> we have something a bit similar here: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7603#
Vincent Massol 1.37 37 10:18 <vmassol> actually XWIKI-7602
Vincent Massol 1.38 38 10:18 <vmassol> closing 7603 as dup
Vincent Massol 1.39 39 10:20 <Enygma`> vmassol: what does captioning have to do with image boarder and autolink?
Vincent Massol 1.40 40 10:21 <Enygma`> (which are the current 2 features and reasons why we use the image macro on xwiki.org)
Vincent Massol 1.41 41 10:21 <vmassol> Enygma`: basically the person who created this issue wanted the same look at wikipedia
Vincent Massol 1.42 42 10:21 <vmassol> and this includes border
Vincent Massol 1.43 43 10:22 <vmassol> and the solution to also add caption is most likely similar to the one to add border
Vincent Massol 1.44 44 10:22 <vmassol> either a macro or some parameters
Vincent Massol 1.45 45 10:22 <vmassol> note that the issue with parameter is that it's too complex and lengthy to use
Vincent Massol 1.46 46 10:22 <vmassol> (lenghty and complex)
Vincent Massol 1.47 47 10:23 <vmassol> for xwiki.org for ex we want it by default
Vincent Massol 1.48 48 10:23 <Enygma`> [[image:test.png|caption="My caption"]]
Vincent Massol 1.49 49 10:23 <vmassol> so it could be the notion of default parameters configured in the admin for ex
Vincent Massol 1.50 50 10:23 <Enygma`> or "title"
Vincent Massol 1.51 51 10:23 <vmassol> or macro
Vincent Massol 1.52 52 10:24 <Enygma`> I don`t really see this as something coming from a macro
Vincent Massol 1.53 53 10:24 <vmassol> basically there are 3 characteristics we would need: caption, border and resize
Vincent Massol 1.54 54 10:25 <vmassol> could be a style parameter maybe
Vincent Massol 1.55 55 10:25 <tmortagne> depends what is the goal, there is a looot more stuff in mediawiki images :)
Vincent Massol 1.56 56 10:25 <vmassol> [[image:test.png|style=small]] which would do both border + resize to a fixed small size
Vincent Massol 1.57 57 10:26 <vmassol> with a confiurable style in the admin
Vincent Massol 1.58 58 10:26 <vmassol> on xwiki.org we hve defined 3-4 styles
Vincent Massol 1.59 59 10:26 <vmassol> 4
Vincent Massol 1.60 60 10:26 <vmassol> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/DocGuide#HScreenshots2FImages
Vincent Massol 1.61 61 10:26 <Enygma`> we can already control the size through the width & height parameters (that also accept percentages)
Vincent Massol 1.62 62 10:27 <vmassol> yes but odon't understand
Vincent Massol 1.63 63 10:27 <Enygma`> we just need to add a title and a link parameter
Vincent Massol 1.64 64 10:27 <vmassol> the goal is to be 1) simple and 2) consistent throughout the site
Vincent Massol 1.65 65 10:27 <vmassol> if you leave it to the user you get 1000 different styles
Vincent Massol 1.66 66 10:27 <Enygma`> if you add a macro, nobody will use it
Vincent Massol 1.67 67 10:28 <Enygma`> they will use the standard, documented syntax
Vincent Massol 1.68 68 10:28 <Enygma`> as best as they can
Vincent Massol 1.69 69 10:28 <vmassol> if you offer 3 parameters to use it's going to be even worse
Vincent Massol 1.70 70 10:28 <vmassol> :)
Vincent Massol 1.71 71 10:28 <Enygma`> we just need good defaults
Vincent Massol 1.72 72 10:28 <vmassol> nobody will us ethe
Vincent Massol 1.73 73 10:28 <vmassol> *use them
Vincent Massol 1.74 74 10:28 <vmassol> or they'll use them with wrong values
Vincent Massol 1.75 75 10:28 <Enygma`> link can be default
Vincent Massol 1.76 76 10:29 <vmassol> that's why I was mentioning defaults but you can't have defaults
Vincent Massol 1.77 77 10:29 <Enygma`> I`m primarily interested in a solution for the product here
Vincent Massol 1.78 78 10:29 <vmassol> because as mentioned already we have 4 valid styles for xwiki.org
Vincent Massol 1.79 79 10:29 <vmassol> and you can imagine that by default we may not want all images to have the same size
Vincent Massol 1.80 80 10:29 <vmassol> border could be a default
Vincent Massol 1.81 81 10:30 <vmassol> linking too could be a default (when the image is resized)
Vincent Massol 1.82 82 10:30 <Enygma`> linking should be done always (IMO, not just when resized)
Vincent Massol 1.83 83 10:30 <vmassol> why would you want to click on an image?
Vincent Massol 1.84 84 10:30 <vmassol> (when it displays the same thing)
Vincent Massol 1.85 85 10:30 <vmassol> your browser already has an action to open the image
Vincent Massol 1.86 86 10:31 <Enygma`> I want all images to be clickable so that they can be opened in a new tab and easily referenced
Vincent Massol 1.87 87 10:31 <Enygma`> I don`t want it to open it in the current tab
Vincent Massol 1.88 88 10:31 <vmassol> your browser already has an action to get the link to an image
Vincent Massol 1.89 89 10:31 <vmassol> the only reason I see for the linking is when the image is resized
Vincent Massol 1.90 90 10:32 <vmassol> or when there's a link to another place ofc
Vincent Massol 1.91 91 10:32 <Enygma`> I like to keep it simple
Vincent Massol 1.92 92 10:32 <Enygma`> I find it more flexible that way
Vincent Massol 1.93 93 10:32 <vmassol> [[[[image:…]]>>...]]
Vincent Massol 1.94 94 10:32 <vmassol> in this case we don't want the autolink btw ;)
Vincent Massol 1.95 95 10:33 <Enygma`> yes, we also introduce this confusion
Vincent Massol 1.96 96 10:33 <Enygma`> users might expect to go somewhere
Vincent Massol 1.97 97 10:37 <evalica> vmassol: what's up with http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/HallOfFame ? I don't appear in any of the categories and also the colors are off + there are very few contributors. Clemens also is missing, etc.
Vincent Massol 1.98 98 10:42 <tmortagne> HallOfFame is outdated since a long time
Vincent Massol 1.99 99 10:42 <vmassol> yes there are issues with the version there I think. I had been working on the next version in github but it's not been fully finished/deployed AFAIR
Vincent Massol 1.100 100 10:42 <vmassol> could be something to do during a hackathon for example ;)
Vincent Massol 1.101 101 10:43 <vmassol> I'll update the page with a wanring for now
Vincent Massol 1.102 102 10:43 <vmassol> I think it can be fixed easily by deleting the scm data in the perm dir to recreate them
Vincent Massol 1.103 103 10:43 <vmassol> but would need some time for this
Vincent Massol 1.104 104 10:48 <gdelhumeau> Hello. Please hold your commits
Vincent Massol 1.105 105 10:48 <gdelhumeau> I need to know if the build is stable
Vincent Massol 1.106 106 10:50 <gdelhumeau> acotiuga: are you finxing http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-enterprise-test-selenium/ ?
Vincent Massol 1.107 107 10:50 <evalica> gdelhumeau: no - we need help
Vincent Massol 1.108 108 10:50 <acotiuga> no
Vincent Massol 1.109 109 10:50 <gdelhumeau> I've just seen your message on skype
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Vincent Massol 1.116 116 12:04 <gdelhumeau> mflorea: are you ready to commit XWIKI-13528
Vincent Massol 1.117 117 12:05 <mflorea> gdelhumeau: not yet :( I still need a few hours
Vincent Massol 1.118 118 12:06 <gdelhumeau> could it break any test?
Vincent Massol 1.119 119 12:06 <vmassol> yes
Vincent Massol 1.120 120 12:06 <vmassol> :)
Vincent Massol 1.121 121 12:06 <gdelhumeau> by principle :p
Vincent Massol 1.122 122 12:07 <gdelhumeau> then I won't be able to fix them (if it is needed) and to release
Vincent Massol 1.123 123 12:07 <gdelhumeau> so either I release early this afternoon, either someone else do it afterwards
Vincent Massol 1.124 124 12:08 <vmassol> IMO it's going to be too late to reelase today if we wait for it
Vincent Massol 1.125 125 12:08 <vmassol> because we'll need the full build to pass
Vincent Massol 1.126 126 12:08 <vmassol> so we need to decide what to do
Vincent Massol 1.127 127 12:09 <vmassol> I think it would be a pity to not have it for RC
Vincent Massol 1.128 128 12:09 <vmassol> so I'd be in favor of postponing the release to tomorrow if we can't achieve it today
Vincent Massol 1.129 129 12:09 <vmassol> we just need to find a RM
Vincent Massol 1.130 130 12:09 <vmassol> but we need to not postpone more than tomorrow
Vincent Massol 1.131 131 12:09 <vmassol> as we're risking to endanger the final reelase date
Vincent Massol 1.132 132 12:10 <vmassol> next RM on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleasePlans/ is Caty and then Marius
Vincent Massol 1.133 133 12:10 <mflorea> I will do the release as I'm the one delaying it
Vincent Massol 1.134 134 12:10 <vmassol> ok cool
Vincent Massol 1.135 135 12:10 <vmassol> so if we succeed today, GD does it and if not Marius
Vincent Massol 1.136 136 12:10 <vmassol> ok?
Vincent Massol 1.137 137 12:10 <mflorea> yes
Vincent Massol 1.138 138 12:11 <Signum> Is there a way to use XWiki like a database? Confluence offers a way to add fields to each page (e.g. in a table) and then display a list of pages and selected fields from subpages. I'd like to create an inventory of stuff and put each item on a page.
Vincent Massol 1.139 139 12:12 <Signum> Similar to the "References" project. But I'd like to avoid coding. Just use what's available in xwiki.
Vincent Massol 1.140 140 12:12 <gdelhumeau> Signum: it's the main advantage of XWiki actually :)
Vincent Massol 1.141 141 12:13 <gdelhumeau> you should try http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/App+Within+Minutes+Application
Vincent Massol 1.142 142 12:13 <Signum> gdelhumeau: Uh, nice. How come I missed that? Thanks.
Vincent Massol 1.143 143 12:14 <vmassol> for a general concept see also http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SecondGenerationWiki
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Vincent Massol 1.160 159 13:26 <gdelhumeau> http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-platform_javadoc/ is broken
Vincent Massol 1.161 160 13:27 <vmassol> gdelhumeau: that'es normal
Vincent Massol 1.162 161 13:27 <vmassol> it's a work in progress
Vincent Massol 1.163 162 13:36 <tmortagne> gdelhumeau: always been broken :)
Vincent Massol 1.164 163 13:36 <vmassol> btw tmortagne did you see my message of this morning on irc about it?
Vincent Massol 1.165 164 13:37 <tmortagne> vmassol: I answered you
Vincent Massol 1.166 165 13:37 <vmassol> haha
Vincent Massol 1.167 166 13:37 <tmortagne> don't have new bugs to fix right now for MediaWiki so I will take care of it
Vincent Massol 1.168 167 13:38 <vmassol> so I missed the answer :)
Vincent Massol 1.169 168 13:38 <vmassol> ok cool thx
Vincent Massol 1.170 169 13:55 <mflorea> vmassol: I have a bit of a problem. I need to commit the configuration for the default WYSIWYG editor. It should be either in xwiki.properties or XWikiPreferences but since the value is going to be ckeditor it can't be committed in platform, which is not aware of the CKEditor (as we decided to have he dep in XE).
Vincent Massol 1.171 170 13:55 <mflorea> so it needs to be committed on XE, but this would mean overwriting xwiki.properties or XWikiPreferences in XE
Vincent Massol 1.172 171 13:57 <vmassol> since we have default values for all properties
Vincent Massol 1.173 172 13:58 <vmassol> this is just about documenting the properties for the user
Vincent Massol 1.174 173 13:58 <vmassol> so indeed we would need overwriting in XE
Vincent Massol 1.175 174 13:58 <mflorea> it doesn't apply in this case, because the platform code that defines the configuration option doesn't know about ckeditor
Vincent Massol 1.176 175 13:58 <vmassol> I don't remember exazctly where we generate the file
Vincent Massol 1.177 176 13:58 <vmassol> but we have an extra config property
Vincent Massol 1.178 177 13:59 <vmassol> $!xwikiPropertiesAdditionalProperties
Vincent Massol 1.179 178 13:59 <vmassol> (in the build)
Vincent Massol 1.180 179 13:59 <mflorea> indeed
Vincent Massol 1.181 180 13:59 <mflorea> we use it for tests
Vincent Massol 1.182 181 13:59 <vmassol> got to go now (eval meeting), bb later but maybe others (thomas?) can help?
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Vincent Massol 1.184 183 14:13 <tmortagne> mflorea: for me it's just about documenting this property and make the value configurable at build time like we do for several already (like we should probably do for all actually at some point)
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Vincent Massol 1.186 185 14:51 <mflorea> tmortagne: but ckeditor should be the default editor in 8.2 and for this it needs to be explicitly configured. Having "ckeditor" as the default value doesn't work because the configuration source is in platform, which doesn't know about ckeditor. So XE must configure ckeditor explicitly
Vincent Massol 1.187 186 14:52 <tmortagne> mflorea: and that's exactly what I said
Vincent Massol 1.188 187 14:52 <tmortagne> XE would set it at build time
Vincent Massol 1.189 188 14:52 <tmortagne> same as various other properties
Vincent Massol 1.190 189 14:52 <mflorea> ok, good
Vincent Massol 1.191 190 14:52 <tmortagne> but it should be an actual property, documented and with a placeholder
Vincent Massol 1.192 191 14:52 <tmortagne> XE should not use $!xwikiPropertiesAdditionalProperties
Vincent Massol 1.193 192 14:53 <mflorea> you mean a POM property?
Vincent Massol 1.194 193 14:54 <tmortagne> I means same as https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/master/xwiki-platform-tools/xwiki-platform-tool-configuration-resources/src/main/resources/xwiki.properties.vm#L87
Vincent Massol 1.195 194 14:54 <mflorea> ok
Vincent Massol 1.196 195 14:54 <tmortagne> and then in XE you set a Maven property which is then used at platform level to generate the xwiki.properties file
Vincent Massol 1.197 196 14:54 <mflorea> thanks, I'll do the same
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Vincent Massol 1.199 198 14:56 <gdelhumeau> we were supposed to not commit
Vincent Massol 1.200 199 14:59 <ClemensR> edvorg: you got mail ;)
Vincent Massol 1.201 200 15:01 <gdelhumeau> mflorea: so you will commit it today?
Vincent Massol 1.202 201 15:03 <mflorea> I'm trying, but I can't tell for sure
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Vincent Massol 1.204 203 15:10 <lucaa> hello xwikiers
Vincent Massol 1.205 204 15:10 <lucaa> I have made a fix for the issue http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13544
Vincent Massol 1.206 205 15:11 <lucaa> and I would like to also put it on some older versions (I would need it on the stable-7.4.x for example)
Vincent Massol 1.207 206 15:11 <lucaa> but I don't know exactly what is the rule, what other branch I should merge it on, besides master and this stable-7.4
Vincent Massol 1.208 207 15:12 <lucaa> any of the 8.x branches?
Vincent Massol 1.209 208 15:12 <lucaa> from what I understand from here http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Download/ , I guess this would be 8.1 as well
Vincent Massol 1.210 209 15:12 <lucaa> please confirm
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Vincent Massol 1.212 211 15:15 <gdelhumeau> stable-8.1.x and stable-7.4.x
Vincent Massol 1.213 212 15:15 <gdelhumeau> but please don't commit anymore on master
Vincent Massol 1.214 213 15:15 <gdelhumeau> we are supposed to release
Vincent Massol 1.215 214 15:22 <lucaa> oh, sorry for this
Vincent Massol 1.216 215 15:22 <lucaa> I already committed :(
Vincent Massol 1.217 216 15:29 <tmortagne> lucaa: no need to cherry pick in stable-8.1.x since we are not going to release a 8.1.1 given the release date of 8.2 final
Vincent Massol 1.218 217 15:30 <tmortagne> (but yes usually you would put it in 8.1.x and 7.4.x)
Vincent Massol 1.219 218 15:30 <lucaa> well, I guess, but since I don';t know the release plan I'm putting everywhere :)
Vincent Massol 1.220 219 15:31 <tmortagne> as you want
Vincent Massol 1.221 220 15:34 <lucaa> gdelhumeau: I closed XWIKI-13544 since I just pushed all the fixes for it, and I marked it resolved in 8.2-rc-1 , as I assume this is what is being released and I also assumed my commit on master was included in the release
Vincent Massol 1.222 221 15:34 <lucaa> lemme know if it's not the case, I will change the fix version
Vincent Massol 1.223 222 15:35 <gdelhumeau> that's ok
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Vincent Massol 1.230 229 17:39 <vmassol> I'm curious aobut "Various tools and helpers for teams of people" :)
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Vincent Massol 1.232 231 17:49 <gdelhumeau> platform still not built :(
Vincent Massol 1.233 232 17:49 <gdelhumeau> on ci
Vincent Massol 1.234 233 17:54 <tmortagne> vmassol: you will have to wait longer than I tough, github commit application is totally unusable
Vincent Massol 1.235 234 17:57 <vmassol> so it's something about saving wiki pages to SCM
Vincent Massol 1.236 235 17:57 <vmassol> (SCM = github)
Vincent Massol 1.237 236 17:59 <tmortagne> no
Vincent Massol 1.238 237 17:59 <tmortagne> I wanted to use github application to commit it
Vincent Massol 1.239 238 17:59 <vmassol> ah
Vincent Massol 1.240 239 18:00 <vmassol> you're adventurous :)
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Vincent Massol 1.249 248 20:35 <boubou> [14:32:53] <boubou> :(
Vincent Massol 1.250 249 20:35 <boubou> [14:34:28] <boubou> http://pastebin.com/5vEYQXTF
Vincent Massol 1.251 250 20:36 <boubou> what can cause that ?
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