IRC Archive for channel #xwiki on 24 January 2012

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05:40 <CIA-121> Sergiu Dumitriu master * r2e123c6 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-extension/xwiki-platform-extension-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/ExtensionManagerMacros.xml : XWIKI-7429: Clicking "Install" after "Show details" brings the user out of the Administration interface ...
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09:39 <vmassol> sburjan`: fyi I've just documented the AllDocs and SpaceIndex pages at http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Index+Application
09:39 <vmassol> sburjan`: I couldn't find it documented anywhere else. Do you know if it's elsewhere too?
09:40 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-commons-3.4 * r3b461e0 / pom.xml : [release] Preparing release xwiki-commons-3.4 - http://git.io/mfbQzQ
09:40 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-commons-3.4 * rfa35b67 / (31 files in 31 dirs): [maven-release-plugin] prepare release xwiki-commons-3.4 - http://git.io/67rCHg
09:41 <CIA-32> Vincent Massol master * ra3e969e / pom.xml : [Misc] Upgrade to javadoc maven plugin v2.8.1 - http://git.io/5QMH6A
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09:42 <vmassol> mflorea: are you ok that I update the maven release plugin version from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2 (on master)?
09:43 <+mflorea> go ahead
09:43 <vmassol> XCOMMONS-79
09:47 <vmassol> mflorea: I'm going to also upgrade the surefire plugin if you're ok to 2.11
09:47 <vmassol> there's one item that says:
09:47 <vmassol> " * [SUREFIRE-508] - cannot run GWTTestCases with surefire"
09:47 <+mflorea> ok
09:48 <+mflorea> I'll have to try this
09:48 <vmassol> we're using GWTTestCase right?
09:48 <+mflorea> yep
09:48 <+mflorea> and test special goal of GWT maven plugin
09:49 <+mflorea> I'll see how it works with surefire
09:49 <vmassol> quite a few things in 2.11: XCOMMONS-81
09:50 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-rendering-3.4 * r8671428 / pom.xml : [release] Preparing release xwiki-rendering-3.4 - http://git.io/f8v2Sg
09:50 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-rendering-3.4 * re2e00bc / (26 files in 26 dirs): [maven-release-plugin] prepare release xwiki-rendering-3.4 - http://git.io/LlC6FQ
09:56 <CIA-32> Vincent Massol master * r1a2d6b8 / pom.xml : XCOMMONS-79: Upgrade Maven Release plugin to 2.2.2 - http://git.io/9WOucA
09:56 <CIA-32> Vincent Massol master * r86a7c49 / pom.xml : XCOMMONS-80: Upgrade to Maven Dependency Plugin 2.4 - http://git.io/nKV06g
09:56 <CIA-32> Vincent Massol master * rcc20a87 / pom.xml : XCOMMONS-81: Upgrade Maven Surefire Plugin to 2.11 - http://git.io/KS-iTw
09:56 <CIA-32> Vincent Massol master * rc640c7b / pom.xml : XCOMMONS-82: Upgrade Maven Assembly Plugin to 2.2.2 - http://git.io/jTxCfQ
09:57 <+mflorea> vmassol: no luck with the functional-test-lifecycle extensio http://pastebin.com/FfzugSDS
09:58 <vmassol> mflorea: hmm I think I fixed it only on master right?
09:58 <+mflorea> ah, ok
09:58 <vmassol> if you want I can make the same change on 3.4 branch
09:58 <+mflorea> it's ok, I will build locally
09:59 <vmassol> ok
09:59 <vmassol> note: I'm not completely sure I fixed it though (even on master) but I couldn't make it fail locally when it was failing before
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10:37 <CIA-32> tmortagne master * rcd1d807 / pom.xml : XCOMMONS-84: Indicate version of httpclient 4.x to use - http://git.io/uY0_gw
10:42 <CIA-32> tmortagne master * r37c3e4a / (3 files in 2 dirs): XWIKI-7417: Upgrade XWiki Repository handler to httpclient 4.x - http://git.io/jGEGTA
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11:10 <n4nd0> hi
11:10 <n4nd0> how can I read past conversations in IRC chat?
11:11 <+tmortagne> n4nd0: on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/IRC/
11:11 <+tmortagne> everything is archived on xwikki.org
11:12 <+tmortagne> s/xwikki/xwiki/
11:13 <n4nd0> all right
11:13 <n4nd0> but, is there something more general which should work with other channels?
11:13 <+tmortagne> google ? :)
11:16 <vmassol> n4nd0: see dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists
11:16 <vmassol> (you'll find links to search/archives)
11:17 <+tmortagne> n4nd0: or do you mean search in different URC channels ?
11:17 <+tmortagne> IRC
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11:18 <n4nd0> tmortagne: exactly
11:18 <+tmortagne> I don't know how to search on a IRC server across channels
11:18 <vmassol> there isn't
11:18 <+tmortagne> not sure it's possible in IRC protocol, maybe some server provide interface for it
11:19 <n4nd0> ok
11:19 <vmassol> http://www.irclog.org/network.php?net=freenode
11:19 <vmassol> you'll find stuff like this but it's far from complete
11:19 <vmassol> and it's up to each project to save the irc logs if they want to
11:19 <n4nd0> but that was sort of what I was looking for
11:19 <n4nd0> thank you very much
11:19 <vmassol> you won't find much there
11:20 <vmassol> another one: http://irclogger.com/
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11:30 <CIA-32> tmortagne master * r63ae149 / pom.xml : Upgrade to 3.5 - http://git.io/LKeV8w
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12:30 <vmassol> mflorea: I'm trying to use the office macro
12:30 <+mflorea> and?
12:30 <vmassol> and I get a stack trace ending with:
12:30 <vmassol> Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
12:30 <vmassol> 	at org.xwiki.officeimporter.internal.builder.DefaultPresentationBuilder.importPresentation(DefaultPresentationBuilder.java:142)
12:30 <vmassol> I guess I'll need openoffice to run right?
12:30 <+mflorea> do you have the office server connected?
12:31 <+mflorea> yes, you need it
12:31 <vmassol> stil I'm surprised to see a NPE. I was expecting a message telling me that I need openoffice to run
12:31 <vmassol> *still
12:31 <+mflorea> yes, Anca reported this
12:31 <+mflorea> it's in jira
12:31 <vmassol> ok good then
12:31 <vmassol> it's really not intuitive now
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12:51 <vmassol> mflorea: how do I control the size of the generated images?
12:51 <vmassol> the default seems to be 800x600
12:51 <+mflorea> from configuration
12:52 <vmassol> reading doc
12:53 <vmassol> hmm can't find it in http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Office+Macro
12:54 <vmassol> is it an xwiki configuration?
12:54 <+mflorea> no, it's jodconverter configuration
12:55 <+mflorea> I remember asking someone to document this.. it seems he didn't do it..
13:01 <vmassol> mflorea: my use case is to attach an ODT file, use the office macro and make it full screen (and make my browser full screen) to be able to only see the presentation displayed on a project
13:01 <vmassol> s/project/projector
13:02 <vmassol> right now I get a small image centered on the screen with a lot of black around it
13:02 <+mflorea> give me a few minutes to document this
13:02 <vmassol> it seems we're close but not quite there for this use case
13:02 <vmassol> ok
13:03 <vmassol> to make it better we would need to add an office macro param to control the size of generated images
13:03 <vmassol> can the jodconverter param be passed when we parse the input?
13:05 <+mflorea> last time I checked no. you have to write custom code that uses the office undocumented API.
13:05 <vmassol> in any case even that would not be perfect
13:06 <vmassol> since the size depends on the viewer screen
13:06 <vmassol> and thus it shouldn't be controlled by the content
13:06 <vmassol> this is hard....
13:07 <vmassol> only solution I can think of is large image generation and downscaling to fit screen but that's not perfect either
13:07 <vmassol> maybe we could start by using a default export of 1024x768
13:07 <vmassol> since this is the resolution we target by default
13:08 <vmassol> we can project on projectors using a 1024x768 resolution, it's probably acceptable
13:08 <vmassol> (as a default)
13:15 <+mflorea> vmassol: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Office+Macro#HConfiguration
13:16 <vmassol> mflorea: thanks
13:16 <vmassol> so wdyt about using 1024x76 by default for us?
13:17 <vmassol> we'd need a simpler way than copy the whole file though
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13:18 <+mflorea> I'm fine with 1024 as default width. I don't know how to configure it without copying the entire file.
13:22 <+mflorea> vmassol: I've added a new note regarding image quality/compression http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Office+Macro#HConfiguration . Might be useful in your case, if you want the images to look good.
13:23 <vmassol> thanks
13:23 <vmassol> what's the default quality?
13:23 <vmassol> (if I don't use "90")
13:25 <+mflorea> I don't remember. Note that these params are passed directly to office server and thus are specific to the office server conversion filters. I searched a while ago for a way to control the image quality on the open office docs, but I don't remember what is the default value. Open Office documentation is a bit cryptic..
13:26 <vmassol> k… we'll also need to improve the wait for the first time generation with some progress bar
13:26 <+mflorea> I'm even sure I found this in their docs. Could have been just an example on some forum
13:26 <vmassol> I'm viewing a 5 slides ODT and it's taking several minutes
13:27 <vmassol> actually it failed now :(
13:27 <vmassol> with the new export size
13:27 <+mflorea> hmm, I didn't take that long to me ever
13:27 <vmassol> "Caused by: org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.OfficeException: task did not complete within timeout
13:27 <vmassol> "
13:27 <vmassol> Caused by: java.util.concurrent.TimeoutException
13:27 <vmassol> 	at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerGet(FutureTask.java:228)
13:27 <vmassol> 	at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.get(FutureTask.java:91)
13:27 <vmassol> 	at org.artofsolving.jodconverter.office.PooledOfficeManager.execute(PooledOfficeManager.java:85)
13:28 <+mflorea> yes, jodconverter timesout because it take too long for the office server to make the conversion
13:30 <vmassol> ok I'm stopping this idea
13:30 <vmassol> it's not working well enough
13:30 <vmassol> thanks for the help mflorea
13:31 <vmassol> however this means this openoffice feature is not good enough for production use right now, we'll need to work on that at some point...
13:34 <+mflorea> vmassol: with a 3.5-SNAPSHOT I can view a 12 slide presentation in 3 seconds locally, with Quality 90 and width 1024px..
13:35 <vmassol> I'm on 3.5-SNAPSHOT too
13:35 <+mflorea> what office server are you using?
13:35 <vmassol> libreoffice
13:35 <+mflorea> I'm using libre office 3.4.4
13:35 <vmassol> checking version
13:36 <+mflorea> LibreOffice 3.4.4  OOO340m1 (Build:402)
13:36 <vmassol> 3.4.2
13:36 <+mflorea> I doubt this is the problem.
13:36 <vmassol> I doubt it too
13:37 <vmassol> I have several images in my presentation
13:37 <+mflorea> I have only text
13:37 <+mflorea> let me try another presentation
13:37 <vmassol> 283K it's not that big
13:37 <+mflorea> (well, only text and the XWiki logo)
13:39 <+mflorea> I have a wiki30 presentation made by Fabio that has enough images, and still I can view it in a few seconds.
13:39 <+mflorea> and it has 2.4Mb
13:39 <+mflorea> 19 slides
13:41 <vmassol> a few second is for the first generation or when using the cache?
13:42 <+mflorea> first time
13:49 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-platform-3.4 * r1643178 / pom.xml : [release] Preparing release xwiki-platform-3.4 - http://git.io/luEDFw
13:49 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-platform-3.4 * r6eb188e / (194 files in 194 dirs): [maven-release-plugin] prepare release xwiki-platform-3.4 - http://git.io/wRpUOQ
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13:59 <vmassol> mflorea: Ive installed libreoffice 3.4.5
13:59 <+mflorea> and?
13:59 <vmassol> It's a bit better, took 25 seconds this time
13:59 <+mflorea> :)
13:59 <vmassol> I get my 1024 images now, cool
14:00 <+mflorea> have you tried other presentations? maybe it has something to do with the content of that particular presentation
14:00 <vmassol> if you give me the link to the one you're using I can try it
14:01 <+mflorea> I'm not sure where it is published. I'll send you an email
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14:03 <+mflorea> done
14:05 <vmassol> mflorea: thanks, which one, the odp one?
14:05 <+mflorea> the ppt one has images, 19 slides
14:05 <+mflorea> that is Fabios's
14:06 <vmassol> 11 seconds for the ODP one
14:07 <vmassol> 26 for the PPT one
14:08 <vmassol> defaulting to 1024x768 would be a great improvement IMO
14:08 <+mflorea> pretty long. I don't know why it takes longer on your machine
14:08 <+mflorea> yes, I agree
14:08 <vmassol> I'm on mac
14:08 <+mflorea> the quick solution is to pacakge a custom document-formats.js in WEB-INF/classes
14:09 <vmassol> openoffice was horrible on mac
14:09 <vmassol> libreoffice is a bit better
14:09 <vmassol> but I still find it slow in general
14:09 <+mflorea> maybe that's the reason. Could be that libreoffice is better integrated in linux/ubuntu, I don't know
14:09 <vmassol> they've probably improved the speed a bit with version 3.4.5 compared to 3.4.2 that I was using
14:10 <vmassol> creating a jira issue
14:12 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-enterprise-3.4 * rae3f516 / pom.xml : [release] Preparing release xwiki-enterprise-3.4 - http://git.io/xiJbDA
14:12 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-enterprise-3.4 * r2e9cf91 / (40 files in 40 dirs): [maven-release-plugin] prepare release xwiki-enterprise-3.4 - http://git.io/b7-maw
14:13 <vmassol> XWIKI-7432
14:22 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-manager-3.4 * ree8a57c / pom.xml : [release] Preparing release xwiki-manager-3.4 - http://git.io/fe7PIQ
14:22 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea xwiki-manager-3.4 * r555df8d / (17 files in 17 dirs): [maven-release-plugin] prepare release xwiki-manager-3.4 - http://git.io/r7siZg
14:27 <vmassol> Enygma`: it would be great to have better screenshots for http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Workspace+Application When I look at this page I don't feel it gives justice to this feature. WDYT?
14:27 <vmassol> (I need to get some screenshots for "workspaces" for a presentation and I was looking there but they're not good enough)
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14:28 <vmassol> (I thought you said you were redoing the screenshots btw)
14:31 <+mflorea> vmassol: platform build is failing, and Jenkins indicates "[Misc] Upgrade to javadoc maven plugin v2.8.1" as the cause, but might be something else
14:32 <+mflorea> well, this says something else http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-platform/1412/console tmortagne I think it's related to the httpclient upgrade
14:36 <vmassol> hehe… hot potatoe swapping
14:37 <+tmortagne> mflorea: yes I have seen it but it does not make sense the dependency version is in http://maven.xwiki.org/snapshots/org/xwiki/commons/xwiki-commons/3.5-SNAPSHOT/xwiki-commons-3.5-20120124.093814-5.pom
14:38 <+mflorea> then let's rebuild commons
14:38 <+tmortagne> well it has to build well to be deployed on http://maven.xwiki.org/snapshots/org/xwiki/commons/xwiki-commons/3.5-SNAPSHOT/xwiki-commons-3.5-20120124.093814-5.pom
14:38 <+tmortagne> ss/has/had/
14:39 <+mflorea> ah, right
14:39 <+tmortagne> I checked and the -U is there so I don't understand why platform does not use the proper commons pom (only way to not find the dependency version)
14:40 <+tmortagne> the platform parent is right too
14:40 <+tmortagne> so i don't think it's using commons 3.4
14:40 <+tmortagne> hmm did not checked rendering
14:40 <+tmortagne> but that would not change anything
14:40 <+tmortagne> platform parent is commons
14:41 <+tmortagne> it's not a type since it's building well on my side, can you try to build platform with -U on your side ?
14:41 <+tmortagne> s:type/typo/
14:42 <+tmortagne> will check the commons pom in the agent local repository
14:43 <kayasaman> hi guys has anyone got an update on when this page will be fixed http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Skins ??
14:43 <+tmortagne> vmassol: btw the option seems to work well, see http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-platform/
14:44 <+tmortagne> "(pending -                 Upstream project xwiki-rendering is already building.               )"
14:44 <vmassol> tmortagne: ah cool :)
14:45 <+tmortagne> mflorea: seems to build well on agent-1
14:46 <+tmortagne> I just deleted the ~/.m2/repository/org/xwiki/commons/xwiki-commons on agent-2, will see next time it try to build on it
14:46 <+mflorea> platform root pom builds fine on my machine too
14:47 <+tmortagne> make me think we should upgrade maven to 3.0.4 on agents
14:49 <+tmortagne> btw who is the build manager ?
14:50 <+tmortagne> mflorea: I see you did the last two weeks according to http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/BuildManagerRoster, you love it that much ? :)
14:50 <+mflorea> no :), but since I was the release manager I had to take care of the build to
14:50 <vmassol> there was noone else and marius kindly volunteered because someone had to do the job
14:51 <+tmortagne> will do this week then
14:51 <+mflorea> I'm plan to be build manager today too, and maybe tomorrow because I have to fix some tests on FF3.6
14:51 <+mflorea> then I'll hand over the job :)
14:52 <+tmortagne> mflorea: you don't have to be build manager to even think of ci either or fix tests
14:52 <+mflorea> tmortagne: ok, I'll help with the test failing on FF3.6 (today or tomorrow)
14:54 <+tmortagne> mflorea: what is the state of 3.4 branch ? if I commit something will it be in 3.4 or 3.4.1 ?
14:55 <+mflorea> 3.4 is already out
14:55 <+mflorea> I'm not sure there will be a 3.4.1. We need to decide.
14:55 <+mflorea> since 3.4 and 3.5 are stabilization releases
14:55 <+tmortagne> yea
14:56 <+mflorea> they are short, and you can wait for 3.5 is you have a bug in 3.4
14:57 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea master * r4bbd893 / pom.xml : Update clirr.previous.version after we released 3.4. - http://git.io/erPfvA
14:58 <CIA-32> Marius Dumitru Florea master * r54f5cc0 / xwiki-platform-core/pom.xml : Remove clirr excludes for 3.4 version. - http://git.io/W7jv3g
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15:42 <vmassol> mflorea: i got another timeout on the same doc
15:42 <vmassol> so it seems to really depend
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15:43 <vmassol> mflorea: btw I've just tried to import a PDF and it failed….seems a rendering wikimodel issue...
15:43 <vmassol> opening an issue for that
15:43 <+mflorea> re timeout, yes.. :( but unfortunately we depend on the office server, so I don't think we can do much if it's slow.
15:43 <+mflorea> nop
15:43 <+mflorea> wait
15:43 <vmassol> "Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Character reference "&#56113" is an invalid XML character.
15:43 <vmassol> "
15:43 <+mflorea> it's not a wikimodel issiue
15:44 <+mflorea> I just tried myself, (I guess you read the user mail too :) )
15:44 <vmassol> :)
15:44 <vmassol> http://pastebin.com/8Kb2B0zq
15:44 <+mflorea> the problem is that the office server simply pastes the content of the pdf in the HTML body
15:44 <+mflorea> and I've searched a bit, it seems PDF to HTML is not supported
15:45 <vmassol> ah that's too bad, I thought it was
15:45 <+mflorea> I've used some groovy code to check the HTML produced by office server
15:45 <vmassol> openoffice can open PDF for sure
15:45 <vmassol> but maybe the export to HTML is not supported is that it?
15:45 <+mflorea> yes
15:46 <vmassol> I wrongly assumed that if they could open a PDF they could generate HTML…
15:46 <+mflorea> you can convert HTML to PDF, but not the other way around, it seems
15:46 <vmassol> if we don't support it we should not allow it then
15:46 <vmassol> *shouldn't
15:46 <vmassol> the office macro accepts any kind of attachments?
15:46 <vmassol> (without check)
15:46 <+mflorea> well, it really depends on what the office server supports
15:47 <vmassol> yeah
15:47 <+mflorea> the next version of libreoffice might support this, so we shouldn't block it
15:47 <+mflorea> when users upgrade their office server
15:48 <+mflorea> ideally we should be able to get the list of supported formats from office/jodconverter
15:48 <vmassol> silviar: nice, maybe we don't need the bottom part (comments)?
15:49 <silviar> vmassol: ok! Reattaching.
15:49 <vmassol> silviar: it's a bit high too
15:50 <vmassol> would need less spaces and less items in the AS I guess
15:50 <vmassol> the tags widget could be removed
15:50 <vmassol> or not depend if we want to show the default view
15:50 <vmassol> forget that I can crop myself
15:51 <vmassol> silviar: what might be nice is to take teh screenshto while the workspace menu is open
15:52 <vmassol> would have been nicer with the new colibri theme but I guess you don't have it on your wiki ;)
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15:55 <silviar> vmassol: I'd rather keep the tags widget to show the default view. I cut the activity stream entries that appeared below the tags area. I can redo the image with the menu. Indeed ab the theme, we made the screenshots on 3.3.
15:56 <vmassol> ok
16:20 <+mflorea> sburjan` please create the test report for 3.4 when you have some time http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise34#HTestedBrowsers
16:24 <+sburjan> mflorea: 5 minutes and I'll do it
16:24 <+mflorea> thanks
16:25 <CIA-32> Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) master * r3620e43 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-colibri/src/main/resources/colibri/colibri.css : XWIKI-7433: Fix hover color for "Add new user" button in Administration - Users ...
16:39 <CIA-32> tmortagne master * r9633519 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-extension/pom.xml : XWIKI-7431: Upgrade to maven 3.0.4 - http://git.io/poRY1w
16:42 <CIA-32> tmortagne master * rd1c386c / pom.xml : Fix typo - http://git.io/v1aEsg
16:47 <+tmortagne> anyone has an opinion about my user agent mail ?
16:53 <vmassol> tmortagne: just replied
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17:18 <vmassol> forcing a restart
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17:25 <vmassol> going to push commons and rendering to central
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17:28 <vmassol> hmm we didn't push since 3.3m2 it seems
17:29 <vmassol> mflorea: this needs to be added as part of the release process
17:29 <vmassol> pushing all…. pfew some work to do...
17:29 <+mflorea> I though it is already part of the release process
17:29 <vmassol> then why is it not pushed?
17:29 <+mflorea> thought
17:29 <vmassol> did you push it?
17:30 <vmassol> the RM is reponsible for getting it pushed (I can do it but he/she needs to ask me ;))
17:30 <+mflorea> no, I meant that I thought the release script is taking care. It seems it isn't.
17:30 <vmassol> it doesn't
17:30 <vmassol> for sure
17:30 <vmassol> it's not obvious to automate
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17:43 <gdelhumeau> http://download.forge.objectweb.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-jetty-hsqldb-3.4.zip : 404
17:44 <vmassol> ouch seems we have some hiccups for this one :) mflorea: you on it?
17:44 <gdelhumeau> and "See offer" of Softec SA is not a good link (goes to xWiki SAS)
17:45 <+mflorea> yes
17:45 <gdelhumeau> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DownloadCode/DownloadFeedback?downloadLink=http://download.forge.objectweb.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-jetty-hsqldb-3.4.zip&projectType=Stable&projectVersion=3.4&projectID=1
17:45 <+mflorea> just wait a few minutes
17:45 <gdelhumeau> ok :)
17:47 <+Denis> gdelhumeau: pleased to see that you care about us :)
17:47 <vmassol> Denis: seems *you* don't care that much though
17:47 <vmassol> :)
17:48 <vmassol> (gdelhumeau: fyi Denis is from Softec SA)
17:48 <gdelhumeau> ;)
17:48 <+Denis> you means that we have not care enought about our links, but I was aware of it
17:48 <vmassol> you can edit it I think
17:49 <+Denis> I am in the process of a large refactoring of our communication, this was were we were the worse
17:49 <vmassol> ok
17:49 <+Denis> that is funny we talk about it today :)
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18:02 <+mflorea> gdelhumeau: download page should be fine now
18:11 <gdelhumeau> mflorea> thx :)
18:11 <+mflorea> you're welcome ;)
18:11 <gdelhumeau> I can try the new release, yeehaaa :)
18:30 <+mflorea> vmassol: can you help me again with wikipedia and wikimatrix?
18:30 <vmassol> I'll do wikimatrix now
18:30 <+mflorea> thanks
18:30 <vmassol> you know that for wikipedia there's no login
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18:30 <+mflorea> let me check
18:32 <+mflorea> what do we update? only the version released, right?
18:32 <vmassol> wikimatrix done
18:32 <vmassol> wdym?
18:32 <gdelhumeau> AppWithinMinutes is nice to use :)
18:32 <+mflorea> @gdelhumeau thanks
18:32 <+mflorea> vmassol: on wikipedia
18:33 <+mflorea> i.e. only the infobox
18:33 <vmassol> mflorea: well it's good to review the whole thing to see if stuff can be improved
18:33 <vmassol> I do that on wikimatrix
18:33 <vmassol> haven't done recently on wikipedia
18:33 <+mflorea> :) ok
18:34 <vmassol> we don't have anyone dedicated to tech marketing in the xwiki community
18:34 <vmassol> I've been doing most of it but I don't mind some help
18:34 <vmassol> ;)
18:35 <vmassol> especially since I think all committers should care about this
18:38 <vmassol> it takes a long time to do 12 or so releases at once!
18:38 <vmassol> (I need to rebuild all version of commons and rendering to deploy them to central)
18:39 <+mflorea> re technical marketing, I understand, but I have the feeling that I've spend the last weeks doing only paper work and no coding, and I'm lagging with App Within Minutes
18:44 <+mflorea> vmassol: on wikipedia there is "Stable release" and "preview release". Keeping 3.4 and 3.4RC1 doesn't seem right, and 3.3.1 is not a "preview release". What should I do?
18:44 <+sburjan`> why don't we have a list of all issues solved in 3.4 in the Release Notes Page ?
18:45 <+mflorea> we have
18:45 <+mflorea> a link
18:46 <+mflorea> most of the issues are technical
18:46 <vmassol> mflorea: you should keep only one stable: 3.4
18:46 <+sburjan`> I am unable to find it. IMO it should be at the end of the Bug fixes and improvements section
18:46 <vmassol> mflorea: I did the same on wikimatrix btw (I removed 3.3.1)
18:47 <+mflorea> sburjan`: it's the second link on the content..
18:47 <+mflorea> it's pretty clear
18:47 <+sburjan`> true. my bad
18:47 <vmassol> sburjan`: is right
18:47 <vmassol> sburjan` is right mflorea
18:48 <+mflorea> wdym?
18:48 <vmassol> the bugfixes and improvements section is missing the full ist
18:48 <vmassol> usually we don't have such a section
18:48 <vmassol> and instead point to the full list
18:49 <vmassol> I was also surprised
18:49 <vmassol> what's logical IMO is to detail large features and then have a catch all section
18:50 <vmassol> for other stuff, ie bug fixes and improvements
18:50 <vmassol> at the end
18:50 <vmassol> *at
18:50 <vmassol> we can start listing some specifially if we want
18:50 <vmassol> but we should finish by an item that says something like
18:50 <vmassol> * … and a [[lot more>>…]]
18:50 <vmassol> wdyt?
18:51 <vmassol> we could put that in the template too
18:51 <+sburjan`> but we have to remove it from the top of the page then
18:51 <vmassol> I'm hesitating about that
18:52 <vmassol> we could but the dashboard is nice too
18:52 <+sburjan`> looks cool at the top of the page ... but haaving it twice in the same page ...
18:52 <vmassol> initially it wasn't at the top
18:52 <vmassol> I added it a few releases ago
18:52 <vmassol> but maybe it's not the right place indeed
18:53 <vmassol> it's a bit tehcnical
18:53 <vmassol> I agree
18:53 <vmassol> I'm on the fence
18:53 <vmassol> :)
18:54 <+sburjan`> me too :)
18:54 <vmassol> maybe simply rename "http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise34#HBugfixesandimprovements"
18:54 <vmassol> to "Miscellaneous"
18:54 <vmassol> and we're good as it is
18:54 <vmassol> anyway it's small
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18:54 <vmassol> and it's not bad as it is now
18:55 <vmassol> so I'm fine in the end
18:55 <vmassol> :)
18:55 <+sburjan`> +1 vmassol
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19:04 <@sdumitriu> I'm not sure I agree...
19:05 <@sdumitriu> It makes sense to list specific issue for libraries
19:05 <@sdumitriu> For user-facing products it's better to list user-facing improvements
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20:49 <recompile> blub
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20:50 <qwebirc2138> I just installed XWiki 3.3 enterprise and can't login with "Admin/admin". Am I missing some step in the process?
20:51 <qwebirc2138> Says "Invalid credentials".
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20:53 <qwebirc2138> This is probably related but I can't import documents from the XAR file. Can somebody help me?
21:00 <qwebirc2138> But I could create a profile without any problem.
21:01 <vmassol> qwebirc2138: you need the XWiki.Admin page to be able to log with the admin user
21:02 <qwebirc2138> Ok. I just don't know what that means actually...
21:02 <vmassol> either use the standalone version or import the XE XAR
21:03 <vmassol> you can check the installation page on xwiki.org
21:03 <qwebirc2138> I'm using a standalone version (WAR)
21:03 <vmassol> yep exactly
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21:06 <qwebirc2138> Cool. I'll go into that again. I missed something.
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21:41 <vmassol> all xwiki commons pushed to central, rendering is on its way: http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/xwiki/commons/xwiki-commons/
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