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Last modified by Vincent Massol on 2012/10/18 19:21

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08:29 <kwoot> Guys, I am seriously impressed. http://balsamiq.com/products/mockups/xwiki. I knew xwiki was cool, just not this cool.
08:33 <vmassol> kwoot: great, glad you're impressed although I guess the merit is more on the balsamiq tool on this one! :)
08:48 <kwoot> True, but nevertheless, it is available for xwiki.
08:48 <vmassol> yep
08:50 <vmassol> kwoot: what's your real name?
08:50 <kwoot> Jeroen Baten
08:50 <vmassol> ah yes
08:50 <vmassol> always forget
08:50 <kwoot> no problem.
08:50 <vmassol> you've won an entry on http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/References/Testimonials :)
08:51 <kwoot> :-) And also in the IRC log off today off course :-)
08:52 <vmassol> yeah I'll link to that
08:52 <kwoot> [me and my big mouth] :-)
08:52 <vmassol> done :
08:52 <vmassol> :)
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10:36 <+Enygma`> there are some display issues with the ExtensionSheet for Plugins. (example http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Ratings+Plugin)
10:36 <+tmortagne> Enygma`: looking
10:36 <+Enygma`> tmortagne: thanks
10:37 <+tmortagne> Enygma`: do you remember what it's supposed to be instead of the error ?
10:38 <+Enygma`> nothing AFAIK, just "Plugin (?)Obsolete"
10:38 <+tmortagne> that's weird then since the plugin part is properly displayed
10:38 <+Enygma`> yes
10:38 <+Enygma`> don`t know where that exception is coming from
10:38 <+Enygma`> and it's only for plugins AFAICS
10:39 <+tmortagne> looks like the issue is with Bundled With
10:39 <+tmortagne> since I don't see it
10:39 <+tmortagne> and that's where it is in other extensions
10:47 <+tmortagne> looks like the issue comes form the tooltip actually
10:47 <+tmortagne> yep
10:48 <+tmortagne> looks like it's the macro {{tooltip}} itself which is failing
10:48 <+tmortagne> vmassol: is it a wiki macro or it's a standard java one ?
10:49 <+tmortagne> given the error it looks like a wiki macro
10:49 <+tmortagne> trying to find it
10:50 <+tmortagne> found it and indeed it's broken
10:53 <+tmortagne> Fixed
10:53 <+tmortagne> was probably dues to Velocity 1.7
10:54 <+tmortagne> looks like now when you have
10:54 <+tmortagne> $somevar.somegetter(%notvelocity
10:54 <+tmortagne> velocity see that as invalid syntax even when there is no $somevar.somegetter() method
10:59 <vmassol> otp
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11:46 <+Enygma`> tmortagne: now the tooltip on the obsolete warning of plugins works for me too :) It did not work previously on Firefox and Fedora
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14:13 <vmassol> cjdelisle: Cassandra 1.0: http://s.apache.org/0l
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14:39 <@sdumitriu> vmassol: I usually create "upgrade to library x.y" issues as tasks, not improvements
14:39 <vmassol> sdumitriu: hi. What issue are you referring to?
14:39 <vmassol> it depends for me
14:40 <vmassol> if I can think of an improvement brought by the upgrade I list it as improvement in general, otherwise as tak
14:40 <@sdumitriu> For example, Upgrade to SLF4J 1.6.3 - XCOMMONS-50
14:40 <vmassol> like I did SLF4J
14:40 <vmassol> it's a task sdumitriu
14:41 <@sdumitriu> Right, it is now
14:41 <@sdumitriu> But initially it was improvement
14:41 <vmassol> you changed it?
14:41 <vmassol> I created as a task
14:41 <vmassol> (I just made a mistake by choosing the wrong project when using jira client)
14:42 <vmassol> (I had left the initial settings without checking)
14:42 <vmassol> but more generally speaking we don't have a rule for this
14:42 <vmassol> tmortagne for example doesn't like to use tasks at all
14:43 <vmassol> he prefers improvements
14:43 <vmassol> it's an even more general discussion that we started the other day with tmortagne and you
14:43 <vmassol> as to when we call stuff "feature", "improvement", "task",
14:44 <vmassol> we could rename the jira issue types to make them simpler to use
14:45 <vmassol> and have only 3: "UI Feature", "Improvement", "Bug"
14:54 <+sburjan> justout of curiosity, why don't we specify in pom's to always take the latest version of our dependencies  ? Because we need to be careful not to break the build accidentally ?
14:55 <+tmortagne> ( vmassol: I usually use task for upgrades )
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15:18 <@sdumitriu> sburjan: For build reproductibility
15:19 <@sdumitriu> Like, if I were to try to build 2.1 today, and it didn't specify exactly the versions it needs, I would get a broken build
15:19 <@sdumitriu> Not the same as the published 2.1, something different
15:19 <+sburjan> because the change in dependencies have changed since then, and latest dependencies version don't integrate anymore with old xwiki code ?
15:19 <@sdumitriu> And since libraries sometimes change their APIs, we could end up with broken calls
15:20 <@sdumitriu> Right
15:20 <+sburjan> ok, I understand. thanks :)
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15:41 <@sdumitriu> tmortagne: Can you check why repository tests are failing?
15:41 <@sdumitriu> http://ci.xwiki.org/job/xwiki-repository-tests/
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15:47 <+sburjan> sdumitriu: could you tell me in which space are the Macros in XE ? I am searching especially the RSS one
15:47 <@sdumitriu> The RSS macro is a java one
15:47 <@sdumitriu> So it's not in the wiki
15:48 <+sburjan> okay, I wanted to try an improvement :)
15:54 <vmassol> sburjan: what improvement?
15:55 <+sburjan> when I add the RSS feed as a widget to my dashboard, it doesn't use the full witdh of the column, making it a little but unaesthetic.
15:56 <+sburjan> because other macros like, info, warning, etc.. use the full width of the column, making them to look nice and integrated
15:56 <+sburjan> I can send you a screenshot if you want to see
16:05 <+tmortagne> sdumitriu: yep seen it. Finished my work on LDAP i'm moving to XR now anyway
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16:05 <vmassol> sburjan: otp
16:06 <vmassol> sburjan: you could start by opening a jira issue
16:06 <vmassol> (and posting the screenshot there)
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16:08 <vmassol> sdumitriu: do we still want to support toucan? (don't remember the emails). For ex: http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6440# ?
16:14 <@sdumitriu> No decision on this topic yet
16:15 <vmassol> k
16:15 <@sdumitriu> Officially, it's still supported
16:15 <@sdumitriu> We could start a vote
16:15 <@sdumitriu> Maybe for 4.0
16:15 <vmassol> yes
16:24 <+sburjan> vmassol: I am gonna try to fix this, in order to get a little bit more familiar with the platform. http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7070
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16:39 <vmassol> sburjan: ok, then assign it to you maybe?
16:40 <+sburjan> afaics it is only one line which has to be modified. assigning it to me
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16:41 <vmassol> sburjan: AFAIK there's a width param
16:41 <vmassol> have you tried using width="100%"?
16:41 <+sburjan> yepp.
16:41 <vmassol> doesn't work?
16:41 <+sburjan> no, I removed width. and it look ok now
16:41 <+sburjan> *looks
16:41 <vmassol> errr?
16:42 <vmassol> width param is not by default
16:42 <vmassol> you have to use it as a user to use it
16:42 <@sdumitriu> Not the param, the css property
16:42 <@sdumitriu> In colibri.css
16:43 <vmassol> so the jira issue is incorrect and it's not a RSS macro issue?
16:44 <+sburjan> line 1957 in cloibri.css  it is under rssfeed classname
16:44 <vmassol> ok so it's not a RSS macro issue
16:45 <vmassol> you should open a new issue and mark this one as duplicate
16:45 <+sburjan> well it's the UI of RSS macro :) Wouldn't be easier if I modify the existing one ?
16:46 <vmassol> you can
16:46 <vmassol> it's not the UI of the RSS macro
16:46 <vmassol> rss macro is in platform-rendering
16:46 <vmassol> colibri is in platform-colibri
16:46 <vmassol> two separate modules
16:46 <vmassol> and different jira components
16:47 <+sburjan> I know. I was going for RSS macro because from a user POV, the RSS macro is affected :) ok, modifying the desc  to colibri
16:47 <vmassol> sure
16:47 <vmassol> you can keep it from a user POV I'm fine with that
16:48 <vmassol> just pick the right jira component
16:48 <vmassol> so for me it's ok to keep the same title
16:48 <+sburjan> I know they are in diferent modules, but I though that ifa user searches jira, he will search for RSS not for Colibri
16:49 <+sburjan> vmassol: opdated the component to Colibri skin
16:49 <vmassol> yes I agree with you
16:49 <vmassol> I see "http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI/component/10022"
16:50 <+sburjan> refresh :)
16:50 <vmassol> it's ok now :)
16:50 <vmassol> perfect
16:51 <vmassol> now the question is why we put this in the colibri css....
16:51 <vmassol> (ie whether changing it will break something else)
16:51 <+sburjan> ok, so I removed the width because we shouldn't have any hardcoded width because the layout can change 1,2,3,4 columns
16:52 <+sburjan> I don't know what else could use :.rssfeed { class
16:52 <vmassol> so it means that now by default when you use the rss macro in a page it'll take the full width?
16:54 <+sburjan> seems so, now it breaks this usecase :)
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16:55 <+sburjan> (thinking), but without adding a width param (optional) I don't see any other solution
16:56 <vmassol> AFAIK in standard HTML only the width needed is used
16:56 <vmassol> anyway I'll let you work on this issue
16:57 <+sburjan> yes but this look very bad in dashboard.
16:57 <vmassol> but the user can use width=100%
16:58 <+sburjan> so you're ok with it ? removeing that line and make user specify width fomr WYSIWYG ?
17:01 <+sburjan> yes, you're right.  I understand now
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17:27 <vmassol> anyone has any idea why the activity stream on http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/News isn't working?
17:27 <vmassol> it's only listing entries from the main wiki
17:28 <vmassol> but the code uses:
17:28 <vmassol> {{activity entries="50" wikis=""xwiki,platform,enterprise,manager,extensions,dev,watch,xeclipse,xoffice,contrib" rss="true"/}}
17:29 <vmassol> hmm I see a double suote used
17:29 <vmassol> *quote
17:29 <vmassol> ah
17:29 <vmassol> much better :)
17:33 <vmassol> sburjan: would be nice if you had an avatar on xwiki.org ;)
17:34 <vmassol> (would display better on http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/News )
17:34 <vmassol> (same for Enygma`)
17:36 <+sburjan> vmassol: ok, I will have to find something, I have to put an avatar on a lot of places :)
17:36 <vmassol> actually
17:37 <vmassol> in the future, would be nice to allow supporting gravatar in the AS
17:37 <+sburjan> +1 for that.
17:37 <vmassol> hmm I can do that already
17:37 <+sburjan> one avatar to update all :)
17:37 <vmassol> I can run my script
17:38 <vmassol> going to take a long time, I should restrict it to committers group probably initially
17:38 <vmassol> I'm reffering to http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Gravatar+Import
17:39 <+sburjan> I guess if we want to integrate gravatar support in platform, we'll need to add a checkbox on user profile page. something like. Use my uploaded page/User my gravatar pic
17:39 <vmassol> although in the future it would be best to query gravatar and not hardcode it
17:39 <vmassol> yep
17:45 <vmassol> ok we new have an avatar for our irc bot ;)
17:45 <@sdumitriu>  vmassol: Did you create the IRCBot user?
17:45 <vmassol> yes
17:46 <+sburjan> :)
17:46 <vmassol> feel free to update its avatar image if you find a better one
17:47 <+sburjan> a darth vader image :D
17:47 <vmassol> why do you see the bot negatively? :)
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17:47 <+sburjan> then a Yoda image ? :)
17:50 <+sburjan> I see that JIRA doesn;t support gravatar :)
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18:00 <vmassol> sburjan: you now have a nice avatar ;)
18:04 <+sburjan> vmassol: thanks :D I'm gonna use it on skype also :P
18:05 <vmassol> err please no
18:05 <vmassol> :)
18:05 <vmassol> not for skype
18:05 <+sburjan> although I don't know what creature is that :D
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18:06 <vmassol> ok got to go now, bb tomorrow
18:06 <+sburjan> have a nice evening :)
18:06 <vmassol> thks
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