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08:33 <+sburjan`> oh noo .. too many clones :)
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09:02 <vmassol> good morning
09:02 <vmassol> for those who wonder about the slow dev activity today, it's because lots of xwiki devs are from XWiki SAS which is doing a seminar in Romania with everyone ;)
09:03 <+sburjan`> ;)
09:03 <vmassol> and that's for the coming ?. 10 days?.
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15:15 <sauthieg> hi all
15:16 <sauthieg> I've a little issue regarding right management on XWiki
15:16 <sauthieg> I don't have any group named "Unregistered Users" (as said in http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/RightsManagement)
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15:17 <sauthieg> So, if I restrict edition to a given group, unregistered users did not even see the page anymore
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15:17 <sauthieg> any ideas ?
15:17 <+tmortagne> sauthieg: it's not really a groups actually
15:17 <+tmortagne> *group
15:17 <+tmortagne> it's a special user
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15:18 <sauthieg> I don't see it either in Group or User listings in the rights page
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15:19 <+tmortagne> switch to "Users"
15:19 <+tmortagne> in rights
15:19 <+tmortagne> and you will find it at the top of the table
15:20 <+tmortagne> before even the filter
15:20 <sauthieg> I have Admin as first entry when selecting Users instead of Groups
15:20 <sauthieg> Ok got it
15:20 <Dan18> hi
15:21 <Dan18> i did some browsing of the annotation code (using xwiki eclips
15:21 <Dan18> e
15:21 <sauthieg> Yeah, it works
15:21 <sauthieg> Thanks tmortagne
15:21 <Dan18> (i am trying to enhance the code so that annotations with more than one color can be done)
15:21 <+tmortagne> sauthieg: you'r welcome ;)
15:22 <Dan18> but it seems i just don't have enough java script skills and woudl need to read up on thta
15:22 <Dan18> that
15:22 <Dan18> i coudlnt figure how where exactly in the code the text backgroud color is changed
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15:23 <Dan18> there is aparaently more than one way to do that
15:23 <Dan18> some related to adding additional xhtml tags, others, setting attributes via DOM
15:24 <Dan18> anyway, i will need more time on that (which i currently don't have)
15:24 <Dan18> so i will try to see what it takes to integrated gliffy instead
15:25 <vmassol> Dan18: if you don't get answers here feel free to post on the list
15:25 <vmassol> (this gives people more time to respond to you)
15:25 <vmassol> (note that a lot of xwiki devs are in a seminar right now so the answers might be slow)
15:26 <Dan18> what seminar?
15:27 <Dan18> perhaps that something i should look into also :-)
15:28 <vmassol> that's a seminar organized by XWiki SAS (http://xwiki.com)
15:31 <Dan18> hmm, interesting ...
15:31 <Dan18>  i didnt know that there is a company associated with xwiki
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15:35 <Dan18> thats interesting
15:41 <Dan18> just noticed that there is also a free cloud hosted xwiki for up to 2 users
15:42 <Dan18> thats great, makes it easier for me to share the wiki i am building, rather than bother with ddns etc.
15:47 <Dan18> hmm, there is also much research going on at xwiki
16:02 <vmassol> Dan18: yep :)
16:03 <Dan18> vmassol: are you part of the organization
16:03 <vmassol> yes
16:04 <Dan18> can i pm you for a question
16:04 <vmassol> sure
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22:41 <Dan18> Hi
22:41 <@cjdelisle> howdy
22:41 <Dan18> perhaps a quick question
22:42 <Dan18> whats wrong with the following syntax
22:42 <Dan18>  [[image:http://www.gliffy.com/pubdoc/2803534/L.png]]
22:42 <Dan18> all i am getting is a question mark
22:42 <Dan18> not sure why, pasting the URL into a bowser works fine
22:43 <Dan18> generated the image macro using insert external image on an xwiki in the cloud
22:44 <@cjdelisle> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/XWikiSyntax#HImages
22:44 <@cjdelisle> should be the last one
22:45 <Dan18> you mean without square backets
22:45 <@cjdelisle> I think that's it.
22:45 <Dan18> hmm, ok, let me try
22:47 <Dan18> didnt work unfortunatelt
22:47 <Dan18> t
22:47 <Dan18> y
22:47 <Dan18> just a second
22:48 <Dan18> nope
22:48 <@cjdelisle> are you using xwiki syntax 2.0?
22:48 <Dan18> ok, one squaere bracket
22:48 <Dan18> did the trick
22:49 <Dan18> but its weird
22:50 <Dan18> i have a dangling "[" opening bracket
22:50 <Dan18> is the square bracket reserved for syntax
22:50 <Dan18> i am using it in the text before
22:51 <@cjdelisle> no
22:51 <@cjdelisle> it's not
22:51 <@cjdelisle> that's as long as you are using syntax 2.0
22:51 <Dan18> yes, its 2.0 per default
22:52 <@cjdelisle> is the image: on it's own line?
22:52 <Dan18> now it stopped working again, not sure why
22:52 <Dan18> yes
22:52 <Dan18> own line
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22:54 <@cjdelisle> maybe there's an open macro or something confusing the parser, I can't really be much help without seeing it in context, I know that what you see usually works
22:55 <Dan18> ok, this doesnt make sense. I created a new page, inserted one image only in the whole page, using the insert image, and it doesnt work
22:56 <Dan18> is it possible that the png format has problems
22:56 <Dan18> that is the png extension
22:56 <@cjdelisle> xwiki doesn't care what the format is, it just creates an <img> tag and lets your browser deal with it
22:56 <Dan18> right
22:57 <Dan18> http://water.cloud.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Water/ImageTrial
22:58 <@cjdelisle> nice background. can I have a password?
22:58 <Dan18> oh, i guess its not public
22:58 <Dan18> password
22:58 <Dan18> Admin
23:00 <@cjdelisle> hrm, this channel is logged, I can remove that passwd but it woul dbe safer for you to change it soon.
23:00 <Dan18> ok, please remove it,
23:01 <Dan18> thought it wasnt such a good idea putting it here, just after pressing enter
23:01 <@cjdelisle> I just edited the page so it's image: and it shows up fine for me
23:01 <Dan18> hmm
23:01 <@cjdelisle> heh I should have thought about that..
23:02 <Dan18> so this is possibly a local problem
23:02 <@cjdelisle> what browser are you using?
23:02 <Dan18> safari
23:02 <Dan18> let me try firefox
23:03 <Dan18> hmm a safari problem ...
23:04 <Dan18> changed the password
23:04 <Dan18> but if you can remove it frmo the log, this would be great.
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23:05 <Dan18> firefox also works great on my local installation --
23:05 <Dan18> well, i better stay away from safari for xwiki
23:05 <@cjdelisle> I removed it from the log, it's still buried in the history of the log which I dare not touch for fear of causing the database to explode.
23:06 <@cjdelisle> wikis...
23:06 <Dan18> as long as its not public its fine
23:06 <@cjdelisle> it's possible to extract but it's certinly not going to end up on google
23:07 <Dan18> ok, i am glad we pin pointed the browser issue
23:07 <Dan18> perhaps something for the compatibility to do list
23:07 <Dan18> :-)
23:09 <@cjdelisle> Yea, it would make sense to bring it up on the list, over there some rendering experts can take a look at it and see if it's really an issue.
23:09 <@cjdelisle> Perhaps open that one page up to the public so it will be easier to diagnose.
23:10 <@cjdelisle> I am surprised that it's an issue since we have a number of devs who use apple computers.
23:15 <Dan18> not sure how to open it to the public
23:19 <@cjdelisle> If you want, I can give it a shot
23:19 <@cjdelisle> You should be able to do it via permissions objects in that document if the entire wiki is not closed.
23:23 <Dan18> how do i access the persmission object on taht page
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23:23 <Dan18> (always eager to learn)
23:24 <@cjdelisle> Are you set as an "advanced user"?
23:24 <@cjdelisle> oh I know the answer and it's no
23:24 <@cjdelisle> so go to the upper right where it says "Admin" and click on your profile
23:25 <@cjdelisle> then once you're looking at your profile, click edit, (upper left)
23:26 <@cjdelisle> then once you're editing your profile, there are 3 tabs on the lower left, I forgot which one it is but when you click on one of them, it will give you the option to decide if you want to be a simple user or an advanced user.
23:27 <Dan18> ok
23:27 <@cjdelisle> are you an advanced user yet?
23:28 <@cjdelisle> according to the setting at least ;)
23:30 <Dan18>  hmm, its actually set to advanced
23:30 <Dan18> brb
23:31 <@cjdelisle> ok let me know when you're back
23:31 <Dan18> ok, back
23:32 <@cjdelisle> ok, I thought you were set as simple user because I have noscript blocking javascript so I didn't see the dropdown menu
23:32 <@cjdelisle> head back to the page where you were
23:32 <@cjdelisle> with the picture
23:32 <@cjdelisle> then upper left, mouseover [edit]
23:33 <@cjdelisle> in the dropdown menu one option should be "rights"
23:35 <Dan18> ok
23:36 <Dan18> i guess you mean to set the acccess rights over the image trial page i created
23:37 <@cjdelisle> yup
23:38 <@cjdelisle> then there's a radio bubble for "groups" or "users", you want to select "users"
23:38 <Dan18> ok, so i make xwikallgroup read access
23:38 <Dan18> view access
23:38 <@cjdelisle> no, allgroup is only users who are registered.
23:38 <@cjdelisle> then you should see a user which represents unregistered users
23:38 <@cjdelisle> all guests are represented by one user
23:40 <Dan18> there is only an admin user
23:40 <Dan18> perhaps because i havent invited anyone yet
23:40 <@cjdelisle> hmm
23:40 <@cjdelisle> there should be an "unregistered" user
23:41 <Dan18> nope only Admin
23:41 <Dan18> i guess i cant really add an unregistered user
23:41 <Dan18> i think i know why, but its just a guess
23:41 <Dan18> i am using the free trial version
23:42 <Dan18> perhaps thats one of the restrictions there
23:42 <Dan18> only invited users
23:42 <Dan18> let me check my own installation
23:42 <@cjdelisle> perhaps, or it's for your own good to prevent attacks
23:42 <@cjdelisle> I could see that happening
23:43 <Dan18> also my own installation doesnt have an unregistered user
23:43 <Dan18> perhaps this kind of user was removed at some point in time as a matter of policy
23:44 <@cjdelisle> hrm
23:45 <Dan18> i could try to add such a user and see what happens :-)
23:45 <@cjdelisle> you don't see "Unregistered Users" listed when you click the "users" bubble?
23:45 <Dan18> i now also looked in the wiki administration section
23:45 <Dan18> under users
23:45 <Dan18> and there is only an admin
23:46 <Dan18> let me change the password back
23:46 <@cjdelisle> heh
23:46 <Dan18> so you can have a look
23:46 <@cjdelisle> ok
23:46 <Dan18> ok, you can log in now
23:47 <Dan18> http://water.cloud.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
23:49 <@cjdelisle> ahh I see, limit to the number of users you can invite, that explains why guests are blocked.
23:50 <@cjdelisle> oh well, if you just explain it carefully, perhaps put an html dump into a pastebin, it should be enough.
23:51 <Dan18> whats a pastebin
23:51 <Dan18> or rather where is it
23:52 <@cjdelisle> there's a popular one at pastebin.com
23:52 <@cjdelisle> just free text hosting without having to sign up
23:53 <Dan18> ok
23:53 <Dan18> thanks
23:54 <@cjdelisle> sure thing
23:58 <Dan18> btw, do you know if xwiki is being used to gather requirements
23:58 <Dan18> i.e. a requirements gathering app with forms and the like