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28 08:33 <+sburjan`> oh noo .. too many clones :)
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30 09:02 <vmassol> good morning
31 09:02 <vmassol> for those who wonder about the slow dev activity today, it's because lots of xwiki devs are from XWiki SAS which is doing a seminar in Romania with everyone ;)
32 09:03 <+sburjan`> ;)
33 09:03 <vmassol> and that's for the coming ?. 10 days?.
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87 15:15 <sauthieg> hi all
88 15:16 <sauthieg> I've a little issue regarding right management on XWiki
89 15:16 <sauthieg> I don't have any group named "Unregistered Users" (as said in http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/RightsManagement)
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91 15:17 <sauthieg> So, if I restrict edition to a given group, unregistered users did not even see the page anymore
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93 15:17 <sauthieg> any ideas ?
94 15:17 <+tmortagne> sauthieg: it's not really a groups actually
95 15:17 <+tmortagne> *group
96 15:17 <+tmortagne> it's a special user
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98 15:18 <sauthieg> I don't see it either in Group or User listings in the rights page
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100 15:19 <+tmortagne> switch to "Users"
101 15:19 <+tmortagne> in rights
102 15:19 <+tmortagne> and you will find it at the top of the table
103 15:20 <+tmortagne> before even the filter
104 15:20 <sauthieg> I have Admin as first entry when selecting Users instead of Groups
105 15:20 <sauthieg> Ok got it
106 15:20 <Dan18> hi
107 15:21 <Dan18> i did some browsing of the annotation code (using xwiki eclips
108 15:21 <Dan18> e
109 15:21 <sauthieg> Yeah, it works
110 15:21 <sauthieg> Thanks tmortagne
111 15:21 <Dan18> (i am trying to enhance the code so that annotations with more than one color can be done)
112 15:21 <+tmortagne> sauthieg: you'r welcome ;)
113 15:22 <Dan18> but it seems i just don't have enough java script skills and woudl need to read up on thta
114 15:22 <Dan18> that
115 15:22 <Dan18> i coudlnt figure how where exactly in the code the text backgroud color is changed
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117 15:23 <Dan18> there is aparaently more than one way to do that
118 15:23 <Dan18> some related to adding additional xhtml tags, others, setting attributes via DOM
119 15:24 <Dan18> anyway, i will need more time on that (which i currently don't have)
120 15:24 <Dan18> so i will try to see what it takes to integrated gliffy instead
121 15:25 <vmassol> Dan18: if you don't get answers here feel free to post on the list
122 15:25 <vmassol> (this gives people more time to respond to you)
123 15:25 <vmassol> (note that a lot of xwiki devs are in a seminar right now so the answers might be slow)
124 15:26 <Dan18> what seminar?
125 15:27 <Dan18> perhaps that something i should look into also :-)
126 15:28 <vmassol> that's a seminar organized by XWiki SAS (http://xwiki.com)
127 15:31 <Dan18> hmm, interesting ...
128 15:31 <Dan18> i didnt know that there is a company associated with xwiki
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130 15:35 <Dan18> thats interesting
131 15:41 <Dan18> just noticed that there is also a free cloud hosted xwiki for up to 2 users
132 15:42 <Dan18> thats great, makes it easier for me to share the wiki i am building, rather than bother with ddns etc.
133 15:47 <Dan18> hmm, there is also much research going on at xwiki
134 16:02 <vmassol> Dan18: yep :)
135 16:03 <Dan18> vmassol: are you part of the organization
136 16:03 <vmassol> yes
137 16:04 <Dan18> can i pm you for a question
138 16:04 <vmassol> sure
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170 22:41 <Dan18> Hi
171 22:41 <@cjdelisle> howdy
172 22:41 <Dan18> perhaps a quick question
173 22:42 <Dan18> whats wrong with the following syntax
174 22:42 <Dan18> [[image:http://www.gliffy.com/pubdoc/2803534/L.png]]
175 22:42 <Dan18> all i am getting is a question mark
176 22:42 <Dan18> not sure why, pasting the URL into a bowser works fine
177 22:43 <Dan18> generated the image macro using insert external image on an xwiki in the cloud
178 22:44 <@cjdelisle> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/XWikiSyntax#HImages
179 22:44 <@cjdelisle> should be the last one
180 22:45 <Dan18> you mean without square backets
181 22:45 <@cjdelisle> I think that's it.
182 22:45 <Dan18> hmm, ok, let me try
183 22:47 <Dan18> didnt work unfortunatelt
184 22:47 <Dan18> t
185 22:47 <Dan18> y
186 22:47 <Dan18> just a second
187 22:48 <Dan18> nope
188 22:48 <@cjdelisle> are you using xwiki syntax 2.0?
189 22:48 <Dan18> ok, one squaere bracket
190 22:48 <Dan18> did the trick
191 22:49 <Dan18> but its weird
192 22:50 <Dan18> i have a dangling "[" opening bracket
193 22:50 <Dan18> is the square bracket reserved for syntax
194 22:50 <Dan18> i am using it in the text before
195 22:51 <@cjdelisle> no
196 22:51 <@cjdelisle> it's not
197 22:51 <@cjdelisle> that's as long as you are using syntax 2.0
198 22:51 <Dan18> yes, its 2.0 per default
199 22:52 <@cjdelisle> is the image: on it's own line?
200 22:52 <Dan18> now it stopped working again, not sure why
201 22:52 <Dan18> yes
202 22:52 <Dan18> own line
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204 22:54 <@cjdelisle> maybe there's an open macro or something confusing the parser, I can't really be much help without seeing it in context, I know that what you see usually works
205 22:55 <Dan18> ok, this doesnt make sense. I created a new page, inserted one image only in the whole page, using the insert image, and it doesnt work
206 22:56 <Dan18> is it possible that the png format has problems
207 22:56 <Dan18> that is the png extension
208 22:56 <@cjdelisle> xwiki doesn't care what the format is, it just creates an <img> tag and lets your browser deal with it
209 22:56 <Dan18> right
210 22:57 <Dan18> http://water.cloud.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Water/ImageTrial
211 22:58 <@cjdelisle> nice background. can I have a password?
212 22:58 <Dan18> oh, i guess its not public
213 22:58 <Dan18> password
214 22:58 <Dan18> Admin
215 23:00 <@cjdelisle> hrm, this channel is logged, I can remove that passwd but it woul dbe safer for you to change it soon.
216 23:00 <Dan18> ok, please remove it,
217 23:01 <Dan18> thought it wasnt such a good idea putting it here, just after pressing enter
218 23:01 <@cjdelisle> I just edited the page so it's image: and it shows up fine for me
219 23:01 <Dan18> hmm
220 23:01 <@cjdelisle> heh I should have thought about that..
221 23:02 <Dan18> so this is possibly a local problem
222 23:02 <@cjdelisle> what browser are you using?
223 23:02 <Dan18> safari
224 23:02 <Dan18> let me try firefox
225 23:03 <Dan18> hmm a safari problem ...
226 23:04 <Dan18> changed the password
227 23:04 <Dan18> but if you can remove it frmo the log, this would be great.
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229 23:05 <Dan18> firefox also works great on my local installation --
230 23:05 <Dan18> well, i better stay away from safari for xwiki
231 23:05 <@cjdelisle> I removed it from the log, it's still buried in the history of the log which I dare not touch for fear of causing the database to explode.
232 23:06 <@cjdelisle> wikis...
233 23:06 <Dan18> as long as its not public its fine
234 23:06 <@cjdelisle> it's possible to extract but it's certinly not going to end up on google
235 23:07 <Dan18> ok, i am glad we pin pointed the browser issue
236 23:07 <Dan18> perhaps something for the compatibility to do list
237 23:07 <Dan18> :-)
238 23:09 <@cjdelisle> Yea, it would make sense to bring it up on the list, over there some rendering experts can take a look at it and see if it's really an issue.
239 23:09 <@cjdelisle> Perhaps open that one page up to the public so it will be easier to diagnose.
240 23:10 <@cjdelisle> I am surprised that it's an issue since we have a number of devs who use apple computers.
241 23:15 <Dan18> not sure how to open it to the public
242 23:19 <@cjdelisle> If you want, I can give it a shot
243 23:19 <@cjdelisle> You should be able to do it via permissions objects in that document if the entire wiki is not closed.
244 23:23 <Dan18> how do i access the persmission object on taht page
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246 23:23 <Dan18> (always eager to learn)
247 23:24 <@cjdelisle> Are you set as an "advanced user"?
248 23:24 <@cjdelisle> oh I know the answer and it's no
249 23:24 <@cjdelisle> so go to the upper right where it says "Admin" and click on your profile
250 23:25 <@cjdelisle> then once you're looking at your profile, click edit, (upper left)
251 23:26 <@cjdelisle> then once you're editing your profile, there are 3 tabs on the lower left, I forgot which one it is but when you click on one of them, it will give you the option to decide if you want to be a simple user or an advanced user.
252 23:27 <Dan18> ok
253 23:27 <@cjdelisle> are you an advanced user yet?
254 23:28 <@cjdelisle> according to the setting at least ;)
255 23:30 <Dan18> hmm, its actually set to advanced
256 23:30 <Dan18> brb
257 23:31 <@cjdelisle> ok let me know when you're back
258 23:31 <Dan18> ok, back
259 23:32 <@cjdelisle> ok, I thought you were set as simple user because I have noscript blocking javascript so I didn't see the dropdown menu
260 23:32 <@cjdelisle> head back to the page where you were
261 23:32 <@cjdelisle> with the picture
262 23:32 <@cjdelisle> then upper left, mouseover [edit]
263 23:33 <@cjdelisle> in the dropdown menu one option should be "rights"
264 23:35 <Dan18> ok
265 23:36 <Dan18> i guess you mean to set the acccess rights over the image trial page i created
266 23:37 <@cjdelisle> yup
267 23:38 <@cjdelisle> then there's a radio bubble for "groups" or "users", you want to select "users"
268 23:38 <Dan18> ok, so i make xwikallgroup read access
269 23:38 <Dan18> view access
270 23:38 <@cjdelisle> no, allgroup is only users who are registered.
271 23:38 <@cjdelisle> then you should see a user which represents unregistered users
272 23:38 <@cjdelisle> all guests are represented by one user
273 23:40 <Dan18> there is only an admin user
274 23:40 <Dan18> perhaps because i havent invited anyone yet
275 23:40 <@cjdelisle> hmm
276 23:40 <@cjdelisle> there should be an "unregistered" user
277 23:41 <Dan18> nope only Admin
278 23:41 <Dan18> i guess i cant really add an unregistered user
279 23:41 <Dan18> i think i know why, but its just a guess
280 23:41 <Dan18> i am using the free trial version
281 23:42 <Dan18> perhaps thats one of the restrictions there
282 23:42 <Dan18> only invited users
283 23:42 <Dan18> let me check my own installation
284 23:42 <@cjdelisle> perhaps, or it's for your own good to prevent attacks
285 23:42 <@cjdelisle> I could see that happening
286 23:43 <Dan18> also my own installation doesnt have an unregistered user
287 23:43 <Dan18> perhaps this kind of user was removed at some point in time as a matter of policy
288 23:44 <@cjdelisle> hrm
289 23:45 <Dan18> i could try to add such a user and see what happens :-)
290 23:45 <@cjdelisle> you don't see "Unregistered Users" listed when you click the "users" bubble?
291 23:45 <Dan18> i now also looked in the wiki administration section
292 23:45 <Dan18> under users
293 23:45 <Dan18> and there is only an admin
294 23:46 <Dan18> let me change the password back
295 23:46 <@cjdelisle> heh
296 23:46 <Dan18> so you can have a look
297 23:46 <@cjdelisle> ok
298 23:46 <Dan18> ok, you can log in now
299 23:47 <Dan18> http://water.cloud.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
300 23:49 <@cjdelisle> ahh I see, limit to the number of users you can invite, that explains why guests are blocked.
301 23:50 <@cjdelisle> oh well, if you just explain it carefully, perhaps put an html dump into a pastebin, it should be enough.
302 23:51 <Dan18> whats a pastebin
303 23:51 <Dan18> or rather where is it
304 23:52 <@cjdelisle> there's a popular one at pastebin.com
305 23:52 <@cjdelisle> just free text hosting without having to sign up
306 23:53 <Dan18> ok
307 23:53 <Dan18> thanks
308 23:54 <@cjdelisle> sure thing
309 23:58 <Dan18> btw, do you know if xwiki is being used to gather requirements
310 23:58 <Dan18> i.e. a requirements gathering app with forms and the like

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