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17 09:02 <vmassol> sburjan`: good morning
18 09:03 <mflorea> Good morning guys. We have a strange issue on xwiki-enterprise-text-extension. XWikiServletContextListener fails to find the default ObservationManager and CM fails because with "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class java.util.Formatter"
19 09:03 <mflorea> I can reproduce locally
20 09:03 <vmassol> interesting
21 09:05 <mflorea> XWikiSerlvetContextListener calls CM for ObservationManager, CM fails and tries to log the exception but String.format fails because of java.util.Formatter
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23 09:12 <sburjan`> hello vmassol
24 09:13 <vmassol> sburjan`: nothing actually, I was wondering if the skin at space level was busted or not but it's probably just that the guy used a non existing skin
25 09:13 <tmortagne> Denis: Hi
26 09:13 <tmortagne> any idea what would cause what's described on "Failed migration from 3.0 to 4.3.1" on mailing list
27 09:13 <tmortagne> looks like there is also another mail with the same issue
28 09:13 <sburjan`> vmassol: I'm sure the guy didn't knew we removed toucan. I've updated the documentation
29 09:14 <tmortagne> "Upgrading from XWiki Enterprise 2.3 to 4.4"
30 09:14 <vmassol> guys, am I right in saying that on a farm, the only way to install pages that require PR is with a global user that has PR? And even when installing a backup pack (if the user is XWiki.Admin - ie local admin) the pages will not get PR
31 09:15 <tmortagne> vmassol: well it depends user is supposed to be xwiki:XWiki.Admin in most of ours xar now
32 09:16 <tmortagne> so ackup pack should work too
33 09:16 <tmortagne> as long as it's done with a user who have PR
34 09:16 <vmassol> tmortagne: that's provided such a user exists
35 09:16 <tmortagne> sure
36 09:16 <vmassol> for example on myxwiki.org do we have it? checking
37 09:16 <tmortagne> that's that does not have anything to do with subwikis
38 09:16 <tmortagne> I think we have it
39 09:17 <tmortagne> by anyway yes we have an issue with PR for any subwiki admin that want to upgrade his wiki
40 09:17 <vmassol> yes there's one: http://myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/Admin
41 09:18 <tmortagne> if you don't have PR you are not supposed to have the right to import as backup pack
42 09:18 <tmortagne> it used to be that way, hope it's still the case
43 09:18 <vmassol> hmm really, didn't know that
44 09:18 <vmassol> what happens?
45 09:18 <vmassol> an error?
46 09:18 <vmassol> you're not shown the option?
47 09:18 <tmortagne> don't remember, I think you are not supposed to see the option yes
48 09:19 <vmassol> so for myxwiki.org users cannot actually upgrade their wikis?
49 09:20 <tmortagne> not all the pages yes but most of the pages that require PR to work at all are for wrong reason
50 09:21 <tmortagne> requiring PR to display an index of pages is a bug
51 09:21 <vmassol> well it's pretty sreious since the home page will bug
52 09:21 <vmassol> since the Activity page requires PR
53 09:21 <tmortagne> the home page require PR ?
54 09:21 <AndreasJonsson> From Package.Import: boolean backup = this.backupPack && isFarmAdmin(context);
55 09:22 <vmassol> yep through Main.Activity
56 09:22 <tmortagne> seriously...
57 09:22 <tmortagne> we are not supposed to have any page requiring PR in XE and we make it worst
58 09:22 <vmassol> AndreasJonsson: ok, so it'll seem to work but won't in practice?
59 09:22 <vmassol> tmortagne: we've always had for a long time, this is not new
60 09:22 <vmassol> we even have a marker for these pages
61 09:23 <vmassol> so it's not like we didn't know… :)
62 09:23 <tmortagne> vmassol: it does not make it good
63 09:23 <tmortagne> the home page was not requiring PR before
64 09:23 <vmassol> sure but it makes myxwiki.org unusable to upgrade
65 09:23 <vmassol> the home page doesn't require PR
66 09:23 <tmortagne> so we keeping adding new PR pages
67 09:23 <vmassol> but Main.Activity does
68 09:23 <vmassol> thus breaking the home page
69 09:23 <tmortagne> it's the same
70 09:24 <AndreasJonsson> vmassol: no isFarmAdmin means admin rights on main wiki. For admins of subwikis, the backup flag is cleared.
71 09:24 <vmassol> AndreasJonsson: you mean they cannot sleect the option?
72 09:25 <vmassol> or the option is discarded if selected?
73 09:25 <AndreasJonsson> I don't know if they can select the option, but it will be cleared if they can.
74 09:25 <vmassol> ok
75 09:25 <vmassol> thanks
76 09:28 <vmassol> ok guys I've just replied to the thread "No Activity Stream"
77 09:28 <vmassol> if you could verify that what I've said is correct that would be great
78 09:28 <vmassol> this seems really worse than I thought initially
79 09:30 <sburjan`> tmortagne: the failing migration is on MS SQL, it might be the cause ?
80 09:30 <sburjan`> since we're not supporting it
81 09:30 <tmortagne> sburjan`: he gets a message saying that migration are disabled
82 09:30 <tmortagne> if true then the message is at least very bad
83 09:31 <tmortagne> and anyway I don't think we have any test for some officially supportedl database at this leve
84 09:31 <sburjan`> nope, not yet
85 09:32 <tmortagne> so there is a bug for sure or something very weird in the configuration if you get a message telling you you did not enabled migration when you enabled it
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88 10:03 <vmassol> one good news about all the xwiki.org restarts is that the bot works quite well and restarts well by itself :)
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90 10:06 <vmassol> normally playground messages are gone and I've temporarily removed broken links (I need to work more on it, it seems to stop working after the first hits)
91 10:06 <vmassol> hmm no luck :)
92 10:10 <vmassol> it seems it's honoring only the first exclude
93 10:10 <vmassol> debugging
94 10:12 <vmassol> guys, are we ready to release 4.5M1 today?
95 10:12 <vmassol> I feel that we should release it, even with the existing blockers: http://jira.xwiki.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=resolution+%3D+Unresolved+and+priority+%3D+Blocker+and+category+%3D+%22Top+Level+Projects%22+and+issue+not+in+%28%22XCOMMONS-324%22%29
96 10:13 <vmassol> wdyt?
97 10:13 <vmassol> we also need to fix the max blockers for Monday when we're supposed to release 4.4.1 (sending email about that one, I had forgotten)
98 10:18 <vmassol> mail sent
99 10:19 <vmassol> ahah could be very nice for us: http://www.clahub.com/
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103 11:34 <vmassol> tmortagne: just rebuilt XE, started it and went to the EM UI
104 11:34 <vmassol> it fails
105 11:35 <vmassol> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mWUKSL1p
106 11:35 <vmassol> maybe it's what mflorea just reported
107 11:36 <vmassol> or xwiki.org is down....
108 11:36 <vmassol> yeah seems that's the case...
109 11:36 <tmortagne> Caused by: java.io.IOException: Invalid answer (503) fo the server when requesting
110 11:37 <tmortagne> yes xwiki.org issue it seems
111 11:37 <mflorea> vmassol: yes, it's not the same issue, the server started in your case
112 11:37 <tmortagne> also what mflorea reported is an issue in the repository module which is not part of XE
113 11:37 <vmassol> ok
114 11:38 <mflorea> yes, that's why only extensions tests are having the problem
115 11:38 <vmassol> ok better now
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118 12:00 <vmassol> the drupal profiles are interesting for example: http://drupal.org/user/24967
119 12:00 <vmassol> (committers: http://drupal.org/node/3060/committers )
120 12:05 <sburjan> last commit 11 years ago ? is drupal that old ? :)
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122 12:49 <vmassol> guys, wdyt about removing the 4.3 branch building on CI ftm? (it's easy to add back with the script if we ever need it back)
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127 12:58 <wikinewbie> Hello folks.
128 12:59 <vmassol> hi wikinewbie
129 13:02 <wikinewbie> Sorry to bother folks, but can I ask some really stupid questions? Am working on an event listener and really a bit stuck.
130 13:02 <vmassol> sure, I'm having lunch right now so I may be slow ;)
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133 13:38 <vmassol> ok found the problem with the ircbot exclude
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135 13:59 <vmassol> tmortagne: the "install on farm" button is only visible when you're on the main wiki right? And compared to "install on wiki" the difference is only that components are registered against the root cm right?
136 13:59 <tmortagne> vmassol: for jar yes, for xar it means it's installed everywhere and when a wiki is created it's automatically installed there too etc
137 14:00 <vmassol> ah hmm had forgotten that part
138 14:00 <vmassol> so there's no way to have the ui installed only on a wiki and have the components in the root cm?
139 14:00 <tmortagne> not if you install them all in the same install job
140 14:00 <tmortagne> but you can install them separately
141 14:01 <vmassol> ok that's an issue for my use case then

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